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Date:      Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:46:13 +0100
From:      "Declan Kelly" <dec@connect.ie>
To:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   A better WWW browser for X11
Message-ID:  <199711041746.RAA05683@ook.connect.ie>

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Hi all,

I'm a FreeBSD luser, who has to run windoze at work.

I was just going to mail jkh, but it'll probably waste less of his 
vauable time if I just send it to the hackers list to be read or 
deleted.

This is a "spread the word" message, so if you think there's a gap 
between Lynx and Netscape for FreeBSD, read on...

Otherwise trash it.


Lynx is my default browser, and I recently made room in /usr for
Netscape 4 (seeing as they were kind enough to finally release a
FreeBSD native version), but it's very bloated.

Opera, the 900k browser for windoze, has been beating the bloatware,
and it almost akes windoze worth loading!

Now they're planning to release it for other platforms:

more info from Project Magic:
http://www.operasoftware.com/alt_os.html

They're talking about doing a Mac, BeOS, OS/2 and X11 version, 
depending on how many people are prepared to pre-pay the shareware 
fee.

They've had very positive response from the user community
(especially OS/2 and Linux users - actually I had to ask them to
change "for Linux" to "for X11", to widen the Unix appeal), and company 
support from Apple and Be.

Unfortunately IBM aren't interested in supporting them (despite the 
fact that Opera under OS/2-WIN beats the crap out of Netscape/2), but 
their work on Opera for OS/2 is going ahead anyway.

Their latest update reads:
    it is almost certain that the work on a Mac and OS/2 version
    will commence shortly, whereas we would need more support and
    interest from the Linux/X11 and BeOS community in order to make
    these a viable commercial and sustainable alternative. 

So if there's anything any of you can do to help spread the word 
(from a button on the FreeBSD WWW page to mentioning it on IRC in 
#nohelp :-) please paste the above URL into your browser and see if 
you think it's worthwhile.

Or should we just wait for MSIE4's delayed Unix release? ;-)

I've already mentioned the idea of putting the existing Windoze 
version of Opera on to WC CDROMs (they do kiosk versions of it 
aswell, and it's a great CD frontend)

They will probably develop first for Linux, and might port it 
themselves, or hand it over to someone else to port it to FreeBSD.



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