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Date:      Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:04:54 +0100
From:      Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>
To:        "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r328257 - in head/sys: arm/broadcom/bcm2835 dts/arm modules
Message-ID:  <20180122190454.7d71e565259ca721d705ce38@bidouilliste.com>
In-Reply-To: <88556.1516636361@critter.freebsd.dk>
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:52:41 +0000
"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:

> --------
> In message <20180122153003.664e1613bbf70ab49c5c1541@bidouilliste.com>, Emmanuel
>  Vadot writes:
> 
> >[...] there is no way to
> >know what the user will do so every node not used by the SBC must be
> >disabled.
> 
> [...] until the user explicitly tells us, for instance with the command:
> 
> 	kldload /boot/kernel/bcm283x_pwm.ko
> 
> I'm not sure who was the first to run 386BSD on a laptop 25 years
> ago, I was certainly one of the first five.

 25 years ago I was trying to finish Ghouls and Ghosts on my Sega
Megadrive and had no idea what BSD was. Now I write code for FreeBSD
for arm SoCs which is not a violation of how stuff works. Time isn't
always relevant.

> Ever since then our explicit goal has been to *not* require reboots
> for reconfiguration, unless there was no way to avoid it.  Nothing
> you or the "DT guys" can say, can convince me that we should reverse
> that course.
> 
> I don't care how it works, but enabling and using PWM on an
> out-of-the-box RPi should not require a reboot.

 But you are not providing a good way to do it, this is a selfish
commit because you just want to use PWM on your RPI and this is not how
we should do things in FreeBSD.

> Over&Out

 P.S.: I still can't finish Ghouls And Ghosts, someone please help me.

-- 
Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org>



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