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Date:      Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:59:33 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Mike Hoskins <mike@snafu.adept.org>
Cc:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sandbox??
Message-ID:  <199907260459.VAA42863@apollo.backplane.com>
References:   <Pine.BSF.4.10.9907251613520.24644-100000@snafu.adept.org>

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:Understanding a sandbox only requires the ability to read on the part of
:the user (something anyone in charge of named administration has hopefully
:learned, else they don't need to be administrating anything).
:
:As for the current named.conf format...  I agree that it should be
:changed.  Rc.conf currently references the fact that 'it may be possible
:to run named in a sandbox'.  Named.conf says 'FreeBSD runs bind in a
:sandbox'.  Saying FreeBSD does something one place while saying it may be
:possible to do it in another is...  silly.
:
:The actual use is up to the administrator, so it seems logical to have
:named.conf examples for sandbox and non-sandbox configs.
:
:Mike Hoskins
:<mike@adept.org>

    The sandbox code for bind is not a novice exercise, which is why it is
    commented out by default.  This is mainly because bind insists on doing 
    things which make sandboxing difficult - you can't HUP it, for example,
    or bring interfaces down and up.  The comment in the sample named.conf
    is wrong, it isn't on by default.  Bind has a number of design faults 
    that make it difficult to run outside of root.  It would probably 
    work in a jail(), though, if someone wants to work on that.

    The sandbox for the comsat and ntalk daemons does work and is on by 
    default.

						-Matt



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