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Date:      Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:48:46 -0800
From:      David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        alanbryan1234@yahoo.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, julian@elischer.org, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD on Intel Macs?
Message-ID:  <3e1162e60601120748p55e6d77cib782917714c75afb@mail.gmail.com>
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On 1/12/06, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
> M. Warner Losh wrote:
> > In message: <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.co=
m>
> >             David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> writes:
> > : On 1/11/06, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> wrote:
> > : >
> > : > alan bryan wrote:
> > : >
> > : > >I read that the new Intel (x86) Macs use EFI rather
> > : > >than the traditional PC Bios to boot up.  I'm
> > : > >interested in using one of these to multiboot OS X and
> > : > >FreeBSD and am wondering if it is yet known to work or
> > : > >not.  Do any changes need to be made to FreeBSD or
> > : > >should it work out of the box? Thanks for any insight
> > : > >and I know that it may be impossible to fully answer
> > : > >until people get their hands on the hardware but I
> > : > >just wanted to start thinking about the possibilities.
> > : > >
> > : > >
> > : > well if they can boot Darwin I'm sure they can be hacked to boot Fr=
eeBSD.
> > : > It would probabty require a different bootloader binary.
> > :
> > :
> > :
> > : I don't see what booting Darwin has to do with booting FreeBSD.
> > :
> > : However, since FreeBSD boots on IA64 using the FreeBSD bootloader for=
 IA64,
> > : I *hope* it won't be much work to port whatever changes that requires=
 to
> > : IA32.
> >
> > Assuming any DRM or copy protection that apple puts in place allows US
> > to put a boot loader there in the first place.
> >
> > Warner
>
> GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>
> Please stop the absolutely baseless conjecture.

FYI, the entire first paragraph of the wikipedia article on EFI is
pretty much a bunch of crap.  At least they flagged it for not being
neutral.  There's so much misinformation on the www.  Wikipedia's like
a piece of flypaper for it sometimes.

Dave



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