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Date:      Sun, 5 Dec 2021 18:56:00 +0000
From:      Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@freebsd.org>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>, "dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org" <dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: git: a4e4132fa3bf - main - swapoff(2): replace special device name argument with a structure
Message-ID:  <6AA150D7-483E-4F11-B35A-23D6F28ECABB@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <Ya0KTUavns2cN/0z@kib.kiev.ua>
References:  <202112042221.1B4ML7Ov002151@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <EE06FFF1-7587-4F6E-8649-63454155F2C8@freebsd.org> <Yay8/x8lTm59vTlo@kib.kiev.ua> <CCBD810D-80DB-43ED-9957-4F9A9CB950E5@freebsd.org> <Ya0KTUavns2cN/0z@kib.kiev.ua>

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On 5 Dec 2021, at 18:51, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 05:14:54PM +0000, Jessica Clarke wrote:
>> On 5 Dec 2021, at 13:22, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 03:03:26AM +0000, Jessica Clarke wrote:
>>>> On 4 Dec 2021, at 22:21, Konstantin Belousov <kib@FreeBSD.org> =
wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The branch main has been updated by kib:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> URL: =
https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3Da4e4132fa3bfadb6047fc0fa5f399f46=
40460300
>>>>>=20
>>>>> commit a4e4132fa3bfadb6047fc0fa5f399f4640460300
>>>>> Author:     Konstantin Belousov <kib@FreeBSD.org>
>>>>> AuthorDate: 2021-11-29 16:26:31 +0000
>>>>> Commit:     Konstantin Belousov <kib@FreeBSD.org>
>>>>> CommitDate: 2021-12-04 22:20:58 +0000
>>>>>=20
>>>>>  swapoff(2): replace special device name argument with a structure
>>>>>=20
>>>>>  For compatibility, add a placeholder pointer to the start of the
>>>>>  added struct swapoff_new_args, and use it to distinguish old vs. =
new
>>>>>  style of syscall invocation.
>>>>>=20
>>>>>  Reviewed by:    markj
>>>>>  Discussed with: alc
>>>>>  Sponsored by:   The FreeBSD Foundation
>>>>>  MFC after:      1 week
>>>>>  Differential revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D33165
>>>>> ---
>>>>> sys/vm/swap_pager.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>>>> sys/vm/swap_pager.h |  8 ++++++++
>>>>> 2 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> diff --git a/sys/vm/swap_pager.c b/sys/vm/swap_pager.c
>>>>> index 165373d1b527..dc1df79f4fcd 100644
>>>>> --- a/sys/vm/swap_pager.c
>>>>> +++ b/sys/vm/swap_pager.c
>>>>> @@ -2491,15 +2491,38 @@ sys_swapoff(struct thread *td, struct =
swapoff_args *uap)
>>>>> 	struct vnode *vp;
>>>>> 	struct nameidata nd;
>>>>> 	struct swdevt *sp;
>>>>> -	int error;
>>>>> +	struct swapoff_new_args sa;
>>>>> +	int error, probe_byte;
>>>>>=20
>>>>> 	error =3D priv_check(td, PRIV_SWAPOFF);
>>>>> 	if (error)
>>>>> 		return (error);
>>>>>=20
>>>>> +	/*
>>>>> +	 * Detect old vs. new-style swapoff(2) syscall.  The first
>>>>> +	 * pointer in the memory pointed to by uap->name is NULL for
>>>>> +	 * the new variant.
>>>>> +	 */
>>>>> +	probe_byte =3D fubyte(uap->name);
>>>>> +	switch (probe_byte) {
>>>>> +	case -1:
>>>>> +		return (EFAULT);
>>>>> +	case 0:
>>>>> +		error =3D copyin(uap->name, &sa, sizeof(sa));
>>>>> +		if (error !=3D 0)
>>>>> +			return (error);
>>>>> +		if (sa.flags !=3D 0)
>>>>> +			return (EINVAL);
>>>>> +		break;
>>>>> +	default:
>>>>> +		bzero(&sa, sizeof(sa));
>>>>> +		sa.name =3D uap->name;
>>>>> +		break;
>>>>> +	}
>>>>=20
>>>> Doesn=E2=80=99t this change the semantics of swapoff("")?
>>>>=20
>>>> Previously it would fail deterministically, presumably with ENOENT =
or
>>>> something, but now it reinterprets whatever follows that string in
>>>> memory as the new argument structure. It probably doesn=E2=80=99t =
matter, but
>>>> this approach is ugly. Can we not just define a new syscall rather =
than
>>>> this kind of bodge?
>>>=20
>>> Having two swapoff() syscalls is worse, and having them only differ =
in
>>> semantic by single flag is kind of crime.
>>>=20
>>> I do not see swapoff("") as problematic, we are changing a minor =
semantic of
>>> the management syscall.  I only wanted to avoid flag day for swapoff =
binaries.
>>>=20
>>> BTW, I considered requiring proper alignment for uap->name, and then =
checking
>>> the whole uap->name_old_syscall for NULL, but then decided that this =
is
>>> overkill.  If you think that swapoff("") that important, I can add =
that
>>> additional verification.
>>=20
>> Why=E2=80=99s it worse? It=E2=80=99s just a syscall number, you =
deprecate the old one
>> and move on, we do that for things relatively regularly. This is =
really
>> not a good solution; harder to use as a caller since the prototype is
>> wrong, impossible to ensure you preserve the semantics for the =
existing
>> interface in all cases, and ugly to implement. You don=E2=80=99t need =
a flag
>> day for a new syscall, either, you can continue to only use the new
>> method for -f for a release and then switch over to the new syscall
>> entirely. Or switch over to the new syscall entirely now and fall =
back
>> on the old syscall if -f isn=E2=80=99t passed. Defining a new syscall =
also lets
>> you not need the name_old_syscall member in the struct, and gives you =
a
>> clean, fully-extensible syscall to which future features can be added
>> in a backwards-compatible way, rather than forever keeping around =
this
>> legacy mess.
>=20
> I disagree, it is not just a syscall number, it is whole user/kernel
> interface that bloats, which means cognitive efforts from anybody =
using
> this interfaces, and for which we must maintain ABI compatibility.

Which is just as true of this approach; you have the same two
interfaces here, just smashed together into a single harder-to-use
syscall rather than two separate syscalls. Having a separate syscall at
least allows the old one to return ENOSYS in the future, whereas if you
ever want to deprecate the old interface with this method then you=E2=80=99=
ll
need some other weird error response that=E2=80=99s harder to interpret =
as
meaning =E2=80=9Cthat variant of this syscall doesn=E2=80=99t exist any =
more=E2=80=9D.

> New syscall allocation should be done only as a last resort, when =
existing
> interfaces cannot be adopted for new functionality.

Which this can=E2=80=99t without breaking the existing well-defined =
semantics,
as I=E2=80=99ve stated.

> Good (or rather, bad) example of the uglyness that is backed by the =
attitude
> that syscalls are free, is whole *at() mess, or specific stat*() mess =
(old,
> other bsds, pre-ino64, ino64, at, then stat vs fstat, then Linux statx =
which
> probably fixes the interface ultimately).

It=E2=80=99s better than this approach.

Jess




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