Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 07:51:08 -0600 From: "S. Ross Gohlke" <ross@bisd.ro> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: operation not supported Wayland Message-ID: <48dcc1b8-0157-46c2-803c-2b217a56bf7b@bisd.ro> In-Reply-To: <923f73e9-181e-4afa-9686-364fcab88b34@bisd.ro> References: <11071764173299@mail.yandex.ru> <aa132bd2-24cb-43a6-88ce-bef830ff3c7d@bisd.ro> <200391764598041@mail.yandex.ru> <3644111764683408@mail.yandex.ru> <207781764767464@mail.yandex.ru> <923f73e9-181e-4afa-9686-364fcab88b34@bisd.ro>
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On 12/4/25 07:26, S. Ross Gohlke wrote:
> On 12/3/25 07:23, Леонид Гнездилов wrote:
>> You won't believe it - I installed 15.0-STABLE and the same thing
>> happened again. I'm already starting to think it's the computer
>> hardware. Although it worked until 11/24/2025.
>> GPU-firmware-intel-kmod-geminilake and i915_kms are used (different
>> versions, latest, 61, 515)
>> ----------------
>> To: S. Ross Gohlke (ross@bisd.ro ), freebsd-current@freebsd.org
>> (freebsd-current@freebsd.org );
>> Subject: operation not supported by Wayland;
>> 02.12.2025, 17:05, "Leonid Gnezdilov" <comdir@infonix.info >:
>>
>> I installed the system again today, on a different disk. And it
>> doesn't work! Everything is exactly the same, "operation not
>> supported". So it wasn't me who broke the system, but the
>> update.Can this already be considered a bug?
>> During the installation, I selected the installation from the
>> packages (tech preview), maybe this will help in the diagnosis?
>> The drm-latest module, I tried drm-515, but it doesn't help.
>> ----------------
>> To: S. Ross Gohlke (ross@bisd.ro ), freebsd-current@freebsd.org
>> (freebsd-current@freebsd.org );
>> Subject: operation not supported by Wayland;
>> 12/01/2025, 17:15 p.m., "Leonid Gnezdilov" <comdir@infonix.info >:
>>
>> Today I tried to remove most of the packages, but I was
>> almost left without pkg)) The result was a system with fewer
>> packages than with the new installation. Reinstalled wayland.
>> And what do you think? Everything is the same, most
>> applications swear on "operation not supported" Installed
>> foot and wayfire. By the way, they work. But firefox is not.
>> I discovered that applications that do not run use libm.so.5,
>> but do not seem to use running applications. No other
>> differences are visible yet. I’ll try to compare on github
>> foot and alacritty this evening, maybe I’ll find some kind of
>> pattern. Tomorrow it’s time to try to reinstall the system))
>> ----------------
>> To whom: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
>> (freebsd-current@freebsd.org );
>> Subject: operation not supported by Wayland;
>> 27.11.2025, 19:44, "S. Ross Gohlke" <ross@bisd.ro>:
>>
>> On 11/26/25 10:11, Leonid Gnezdilov wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>> FreeBSD 16.0-CURRENT, Wayland. After the one of
>> upgrade (or after some of my experiments with the
>> system), many applications stopped running. Most
>> applications. Old, probably XWayland, applications
>> work. Telegram-desktop, a rox-terminal, browser was
>> able to run - net-surf.
>>
>> Errors during launch vary, but almost everything is
>> united by "operation not supported (os error 45)"
>> Well, yes, Wayland compositors start and work without
>> problems (hyprland, labwc, hikari), errors occur when
>> launching compositors clients - applications.
>>
>> I am running a Wayland session on FreeBSD 16.0-CURRENT
>> pkgbase from a couple of weeks ago and have not seen
>> these errors.
>>
>> Wayfire is the compositor, and my regular app rotation --
>> foot, Firefox, Thunderbird -- is as stable as it has
>> been. I am not using XWayland.
>>
>> If there are specific apps you would like me to check let
>> me know.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ross
>>
> % pkg info -x gpu
> gpu-firmware-intel-kmod-tigerlake-20230625.1600003
>
> % pkg info -x drm | grep kmod
> drm-latest-kmod-6.9.1600003
>
Also, here is my relevant environment, excluding XDG.
SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3
QT_WAYLAND_DISABLE_WINDOWDECORATION=1
GDK_BACKEND=wayland
SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland
QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=1
MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1
QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland-egl
CLUTTER_BACKEND=wayland
QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
TMPDIR is mounted tmpfs since default /tmp size might be too small for
programs like Firefox to do anything useful.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/4/25 07:26, S. Ross Gohlke wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/3/25 07:23, Леонид Гнездилов
wrote:<br>
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<div>You won't believe it - I installed 15.0-STABLE and the same
thing happened again. I'm already starting to think it's the
computer hardware. Although it worked until 11/24/2025.</div>
<div>GPU-firmware-intel-kmod-geminilake and i915_kms are used
(different versions, latest, 61, 515)</div>
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<div>To: S. Ross Gohlke (<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:ross@bisd.ro" moz-do-not-send="true">ross@bisd.ro</a>
), <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">freebsd-current@freebsd.org</a> (<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">freebsd-current@freebsd.org</a> );</div>
<div>Subject: operation not supported by Wayland;</div>
<div>02.12.2025, 17:05, "Leonid Gnezdilov" <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:comdir@infonix.info" moz-do-not-send="true"><comdir@infonix.info
></a>:</div>
<blockquote>
<div>I installed the system again today, on a different disk.
And it doesn't work! Everything is exactly the same,
"operation not supported". So it wasn't me who broke the
system, but the update.Can this already be considered a bug?</div>
<div>During the installation, I selected the installation from
the packages (tech preview), maybe this will help in the
diagnosis? The drm-latest module, I tried drm-515, but it
doesn't help. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----------------</div>
<div>To: S. Ross Gohlke (<a href="mailto:ross@bisd.ro"
rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ross@bisd.ro</a> ), <a
href="mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org"
rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">freebsd-current@freebsd.org</a>
(<a href="mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org"
rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">freebsd-current@freebsd.org</a>
);</div>
<div>Subject: operation not supported by Wayland;</div>
<div>12/01/2025, 17:15 p.m., "Leonid Gnezdilov" <<a
href="mailto:comdir@infonix.info"
rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">comdir@infonix.info</a>
>:</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div>Today I tried to remove most of the packages, but I
was almost left without pkg)) The result was a system
with fewer packages than with the new installation.
Reinstalled wayland. And what do you think? Everything
is the same, most applications swear on "operation not
supported" Installed foot and wayfire. By the way, they
work. But firefox is not. I discovered that applications
that do not run use libm.so.5, but do not seem to use
running applications. No other differences are visible
yet. I’ll try to compare on github foot and alacritty
this evening, maybe I’ll find some kind of pattern.
Tomorrow it’s time to try to reinstall the system))</div>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----------------</div>
<div>To whom: <a href="mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org"
rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">freebsd-current@freebsd.org</a>
(<a href="mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org"
rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">freebsd-current@freebsd.org</a>
);</div>
<div>Subject: operation not supported by Wayland;</div>
<div>27.11.2025, 19:44, "S. Ross Gohlke" <<a
href="mailto:ross@bisd.ro" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ross@bisd.ro</a>>:</div>
<blockquote>
<p>On 11/26/25 10:11, Leonid Gnezdilov wrote:</p>
<blockquote>
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<div style="box-sizing:border-box">Hi!</div>
<div style="box-sizing:border-box">FreeBSD
16.0-CURRENT, Wayland. After the one
of upgrade (or after some of my
experiments with the system), many
applications stopped running. Most
applications. Old, probably
XWayland, applications work.
Telegram-desktop, a rox-terminal,
browser was able to run - net-surf.<br
style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px">
<br style="box-sizing:border-box">
Errors during launch vary, but
almost everything is united by
"operation not supported (os error
45)"</div>
<div style="box-sizing:border-box">Well,
yes, Wayland compositors start and
work without problems (hyprland,
labwc, hikari), errors occur when
launching compositors clients -
applications.</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>I am running a Wayland session on FreeBSD 16.0-CURRENT
pkgbase from a couple of weeks ago and have not seen
these errors.</p>
<p>Wayfire is the compositor, and my regular app rotation
-- foot, Firefox, Thunderbird -- is as stable as it has
been. I am not using XWayland.</p>
<p>If there are specific apps you would like me to check
let me know.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Ross </p>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p>% pkg info -x gpu<br>
gpu-firmware-intel-kmod-tigerlake-20230625.1600003 </p>
<p>% pkg info -x drm | grep kmod<br>
drm-latest-kmod-6.9.1600003</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Also, here is my relevant environment, excluding XDG.</p>
<p>SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3<br>
QT_WAYLAND_DISABLE_WINDOWDECORATION=1<br>
GDK_BACKEND=wayland<br>
SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland<br>
QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=1<br>
MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1<br>
QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland-egl<br>
CLUTTER_BACKEND=wayland<br>
QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct<br>
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<p>TMPDIR is mounted tmpfs since default /tmp size might be too
small for programs like Firefox to do anything useful.</p>
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