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Date:      Wed, 4 May 2016 16:53:59 +0200
From:      Kristof Provost <kristof@sigsegv.be>
To:        Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: How to use pf with vimage jails?
Message-ID:  <4EBFFB72-B185-4272-ACDF-B6B576ADE0D2@sigsegv.be>
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> On 04 May 2016, at 16:48, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Kristof Provost <kristof@sigsegv.be =
<mailto:kristof@sigsegv.be>> wrote:
>=20
> > On 04 May 2016, at 04:55, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org =
<mailto:asomers@freebsd.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Is there any documentation on how to run pf on a host, using it to =
control
> > access to vimage jails?  I see that only ipfw can be run from =
_inside_ of
> > the jail, but I'm interested in running pf _outside_ of the jail.
>=20
> That=E2=80=99s supported, and really no different from configuring pf =
otherwise.
> Just treat the vimage jails as if they were on different machines, =
behind your firewall.
>=20
> Regards,
> Kristof
>=20
>=20
> Then maybe it's the bridged aspect that's screwing me up.  Is there a =
guide for using pf on bridged interfaces?  All I can find is this guide =
for ipfw.
>=20
Treat a bridge as a simple interface, pretend that the bridge members =
are just devices plugged into a switch connected to the bridge =
interface.

> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/filtering-bridges/article.html =
<https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/filtering-bridges/article.html>;
>=20
That=E2=80=99s a filtering bridge, which is a different use case. On a =
filtering bridge the firewall device doesn=E2=80=99t need an IP, instead =
interpreting the layer 2 packets.
pf can do this (see the net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge sysctl), but there =
are major problems with the implementation. I=E2=80=99d discourage you =
from using this.

Regards,
Kristof




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