Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:09:38 -0800 From: matt <sendtomatt@gmail.com> To: Alex Goncharov <alex-goncharov@comcast.net> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Alexander Motin <mav@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: 8 to 9: Kernel modularization -- did it change? Message-ID: <4F3EA5F2.9070804@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <E1RyRq0-000Iqy-3l@hans3> References: <CAOjFWZ6WM1bLEwaBiUE50Gj4MrwxefDWFb85ecRtYkSDuZ0erg@mail.gmail.com> <mailpost.1329495670.7246668.67851.mailing.freebsd.hackers@FreeBSD.cs.nctu.edu.tw> <4F3E8225.9030501@FreeBSD.org> <E1RyRKJ-000Ioa-Ec@hans3> <4F3E8C26.3080900@FreeBSD.org> <E1RyRq0-000Iqy-3l@hans3>
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On 02/17/12 09:43, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- I/Alex (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:10:31 -0500) ----* > | Being mostly a FreeBSD freeloader (or a marginal contributor), I > | shouldn't be complaining, and I am not, but permit me to make a > | personal biased judgment: losing the ability to do a practically > | important thing (a dynamic sound card tuning) which was available in > | 8, makes 9 a "not ready to be released" OS (GUI isn't relevant here.)= > |=20 > | OK, I'll put my upgrades to 9 on hold... Thanks all for clarifying th= e > | situation! > ,--- You/Alexander (Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:19:34 +0200) ----* > | For many users these days not having sound drivers turned on by defau= lt=20 > | is more astonishing. > > Perhaps, but the FreeBSD Handbook has been describing the sound setup > routine very well (the pin assignment methods I learned from some text > you had written -- the man pages or your posts to FreeBSD lists, I > don't remember. Thanks for that!) > > | Luckily most systems don't need hints to get working sound. > > Based on my experience, I disagree with you -- I had to do it in all > the laptops that I installed FreeBSD 8 on (2 -- a low number, but 100% > for me)... I never tried to do it with the desktops, but on my > laptops, I like listing to music while I work. > > | So it depends on point of view. And definitely I see no problem in > | this for updating to 9.0, unless you are already biased against it. > > I am not biased against 9, and I will complete the setup of the three > systems currently being polished, since there is no point in going > back to 8, but I will be unlikely installing 9 on any new system for > some number of weeks. > > A technical question: I have the saved (from 8) copies of > /boot/device.hints for the laptops in question which have lines like: > > hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid22.config=3D"as=3D1 seq=3D15 device=3DHeadphones"= > > there. > > What's the best way to use this in 9? To add to the bottom of > /boot/device.hints? Or use in /boot/loader.conf somehow, as was > suggested in one of the replies in this thread? If in loader.conf, > what's the correct syntax? > > Again, thank you for the work on the sound cards, documentation and > advice! > > -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" For what it's worth, it's just a change in GENERIC. It's not hard to compile a kernel with different options, just like linux. Does a Redhat, or Ubuntu kernel meet everyone's need without recompiling or issues? Never. I run both, I'm not trying to start a flamewar. So recompile GENERIC without snd_hda, you're a power user. The handbook is an excellent resource if you've never done it. It's actually nice to have a minimal kernel config available for any kind of testing. Or reboot a few times, it's not that bad! Matt
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