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Date:      Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:29:06 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: softupdates and sync 
Message-ID:  <199810170729.AAA01257@dingo.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:17:12 MDT." <199810170717.BAA00645@harmony.village.org> 

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> Question,
> 	If I remove a huge directory with on a volume that has soft
> updates enabled, then my df avail stat doesn't change (although the
> rm happens very very fast).  So, I type sync, and there isn't much
> disk activity and the df stat is still the same.  So I wait a while,
> no disk activity.  After 5 minutes I unmount and remount the volume.
> The unmout causes a huge amount of traffic to the disk.  On remount
> the missing space reappears.
> 
> 	This seems odd to me, but is it normal?  Is it normal to have
> lots of unwritten blocks after a sync command has been issued?  Seems,
> on its surface, to be a bug to me. I can understand the df stats not updating
> until the space is actually gone, but to have sync not write out all
> the softupdate deferred writes seems wrong somehow.

It's "normal", but it shouldn't take minutes; the buckets are meant to 
cycle around every 30 seconds or so.  You haven't tweaked the update 
timer by any chance, have you?

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