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Date:      Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:41:29 -0800
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Mark Zielinski <markz@2cactus.com>, cjclark@alum.mit.edu, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Read-Only Filesystems
Message-ID:  <20001220174129.F19572@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <20001220174056.C22288@citusc.usc.edu>; from kris@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:40:56PM -0800
References:  <20001219114936.A23819@rfx-64-6-211-149.users.reflexco> <20001219120953.S19572@fw.wintelcom.net> <20001219211642.D13474@citusc.usc.edu> <3A40BED3.1070909@2cactus.com> <20001220174056.C22288@citusc.usc.edu>

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* Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG> [001220 17:39] wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 02:14:43PM +0000, Mark Zielinski wrote:
> > This is a attack that we fixed in SecureBSD by not allowing
> > filesystems to be un-mounted and re-mounted back in May of 1999.
> > We added security checks to the mount() and unmount() system calls
> > based upon a MIB called securebsd.options.mount which could be
> > turned on or off depending upon your securelevel setting.
> 
> The argument is that securelevel is fundamentally flawed and fairly
> useless as a security feature, unless you treat every system reboot
> (expected or not) as a potential compromise.

Actually, securelevel as a all-covering blanket would work better
if people implemented fixes for it like a solution for the mount
problem described here.

Securelevel is hard to implement, but hard to mess up unlike ACLs
which are both hard to implement and hard to deploy.

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
"I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."


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