Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 12:49:02 +0100 From: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@freebsd.org> To: Dmitry Chagin <dchagin@freebsd.org> Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>, "dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org" <dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: git: e013e36939ac - main - linux(4): Get rid of Linuxulator kernel build options. Message-ID: <3B06AC5C-4569-4DCB-AA75-42005E781EFB@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <YNHNbpSuf%2Bf1IcUa@heemeyer.club> References: <202106211656.15LGuXQU059224@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <C06B43AE-D887-410F-A212-5A16BC28DDB7@freebsd.org> <YNHC7bIN%2BtpRUm0C@heemeyer.club> <4C0E8010-EFBF-42A5-90EF-A502E7BBD3D7@freebsd.org> <YNHNbpSuf%2Bf1IcUa@heemeyer.club>
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On 22 Jun 2021, at 12:45, Dmitry Chagin <dchagin@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:36:26PM +0100, Jessica Clarke wrote: >> On 22 Jun 2021, at 12:01, Dmitry Chagin <dchagin@freebsd.org> wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:56:38PM +0100, Jessica Clarke wrote: >>>> On 21 Jun 2021, at 17:56, Dmitry Chagin <dchagin@FreeBSD.org> = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> The branch main has been updated by dchagin: >>>>>=20 >>>>> URL: = https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3De013e36939ac87b53195370fb5e29f29= c1a4b5c6 >>>>>=20 >>>>> commit e013e36939ac87b53195370fb5e29f29c1a4b5c6 >>>>> Author: Dmitry Chagin <dchagin@FreeBSD.org> >>>>> AuthorDate: 2021-06-22 05:32:39 +0000 >>>>> Commit: Dmitry Chagin <dchagin@FreeBSD.org> >>>>> CommitDate: 2021-06-22 05:32:39 +0000 >>>>>=20 >>>>> linux(4): Get rid of Linuxulator kernel build options. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Stop confusing people, retire COMPAT_LINUX and COMPAT_LINUX32 = kernel >>>>> build options. Since we have 32 and 64 bit Linux emulators, we = can't build both >>>>> emulators together into the kernel. I don't think it matters, = Linux emulation >>>>> depends on loadable modules (via rc). >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cut LINPROCFS and LINSYSFS for consistency. >>>>=20 >>>> I don=E2=80=99t see why these two should be deleted? They currently = build fine, >>>> and GNU/kFreeBSD kernels enable them. They might work as modules, = but I >>>> would worry that too many parts of userland would try and read them >>>> before /etc/init.d/kldutils (the init script that loads modules) = loads >>>> them, so then we=E2=80=99d have to mess around with GRUB configs to = preload >>>> them. If the options work, please leave them in. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> both FS modules depend on linux.ko on i386 or linux_common.ko on = amd64, >>> so it doesn't make sense to have options for them >>=20 >> But that still worked, and was even in NOTES so being tested by LINT. >>=20 >>>> There=E2=80=99s a separate debate of whether this is the = =E2=80=9Cright=E2=80=9D fix for >>>> COMPAT_LINUX*; arguably that *should* work and it=E2=80=99s a bug = that they >>>> don=E2=80=99t, not a feature, even if it=E2=80=99s not of much = interest to support=E2=80=A6 >>>>=20 >>>> I=E2=80=99d like to see the second half reverted, please, and = believe the first >>>> should be too, but I feel less strongly about that. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I think that descendants should adapt to upstream, esp since there = is no >>> KBI or ABI breakage. btw, debian wiki says gnu/kFreeBSD unmaintained >>> since 2014. That is the reason to worry about dead project? >>=20 >> As the current maintainer this is news to me. I see no such comment = on >> the port=E2=80=99s wiki page[1]. >>=20 >> Jess >>=20 >> [1] https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD >>=20 > I read: https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/index.en.html That doesn=E2=80=99t say unmaintained, that says not officially = supported. It=E2=80=99s the equivalent of Tier 1 vs not Tier 1 in FreeBSD, and falls into the same category as powerpc, ppc64 and riscv64, among other architectures. It just means that there are no stable releases, only unstable (-CURRENT equivalent). Jess
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