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Date:      Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:22:45 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
To:        Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>
Cc:        Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org, freebsd-mips@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning
Message-ID:  <201712310122.vBV1Mjds078793@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <12b36190fcd6918a01d88fd4dbf1a220@megadrive.org>

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> On 2017-12-31 01:46, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
> >> freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT? When last I
> >> > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and generally
> >> > came
> >> > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory.
> >> > >
> >> > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be deleted w/o
> >> > loss
> >> > > of functionality.
> >> >
> >> > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about
> >> > this.  It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has
> >> > NOT been done yet.  At least that is how I read the persons
> >> > comments.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and 
> >> we've
> >> arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email 
> >> asking
> >> for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my 
> >> interpretation
> >> is correct.
> > 
> > Thanks.  Also you might want to ping the router projects folks,
> > as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and
> > they may have info on which of the implementations work better,
> > and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x
> > can just be axed.  I know this project is out there someplace,
> > but can not find a link for it right now.    And I have seen
> > some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months.
> 
>   "router project folks" ?
> 
>   Who are you talking about exactly ?

And now I found the other person that just posted updates on the
zrouter code, it is now a git project, and just updated stuff
relative to the RT305x stuff one month ago:
https://github.com/ZRouter/ZRouter/tree/master/socs/Ralink

Project top is at https://github.com/ZRouter

> >> Warner
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >
> >> > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems to
> >> > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a bunch of
> >> > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips. What am
> >> > I
> >> > > missing?
> >> > >
> >> > > Warner
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin <mizhka@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Warner,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are to be
> >> > kept
> >> > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, Mikrotik from
> >> > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), sibyte is
> >> > to be
> >> > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while.
> >> > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g router" with
> >> > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thank you!
> >> > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your
> >> > family.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following
> >> > before the
> >> > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old)
> >> > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack
> >> > > >> memory, very old)
> >> > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete)
> >> > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so)
> >> > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware)
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to
> >> > arch@.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older
> >> > > >> ports
> >> > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on
> >> > these
> >> > > >> boards anymore.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer
> >> > running
> >> > > >> on
> >> > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Warner
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> >> > --
> >> > Rod Grimes
> >> > rgrimes@freebsd.org
> >> >
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Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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