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Date:      Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:01:43 -0800
From:      "Crist J. Clark" <cristjc@comcast.net>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: LKM support (Was: Re: possible compromise or just misreading logs)
Message-ID:  <20031209040143.GA45736@blossom.cjclark.org>
In-Reply-To: <20031208173715.GH82104@sentex.net>
References:  <20031207200130.C4B1216A4E0@hub.freebsd.org> <Pine.GSO.4.58.0312081045300.15156@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk> <20031208123501.GA87554@ergo.nruns.com> <20031208160428.DDF8FDAE9A@mx7.roble.com> <20031208164804.GA92121@ergo.nruns.com> <3FD4B58B.9020308@expertcity.com> <20031208173715.GH82104@sentex.net>

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On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:37:15PM -0500, Damian Gerow wrote:
> Thus spake Steve Francis (steve@expertcity.com) [08/12/03 12:30]:
> > And just adding my voice to the "tripwire is good to run, but not a 
> > panacea" argument - if a machine gets a KLM loaded in a compromise, 
> > there is no way tripwire can be assured it is verifying the binary it 
> > asks the kernel for information about. Nothing to stop the compromised 
> > kernel returning the original binary for all requests, except for those 
> > needed to do Evil.  If you get a root compromise so that a KLM can be 
> > loaded, all bets are off. Short of that, I think tripwire makes it very 
> > very hard to change files on a system w/o being detected. As long as 
> > that is all the faith you put in tripwire, and use to verify just that 
> > purpose and no more, its great, and it (or something like it, like AIDE) 
> > is essential.
> 
> On that note, is there any way to disable LKM support in FreeBSD?  Or is
> that what NO_MODULES does?

No, it doesn't. I have some really, really old patches that do
this. Check the URL in the .sig. Let me know if they no longer work.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                     |     cjclark@alum.mit.edu
                                   |     cjclark@jhu.edu
http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/    |     cjc@freebsd.org



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