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Date:      Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:25:20 +0200
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        David O'Brien <obrien@freebsd.org>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Disabling inetd?
Message-ID:  <20000626122520.U36017@zoe.bastard.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20000626031547.J14265@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:15:48AM -0700
References:  <20000626053525.U85886@argon.gryphonsoft.com> <20000626115146.S36017@zoe.bastard.co.uk> <20000626031547.J14265@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Mon, Jun 26, 2000, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 11:51:46AM +0200, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > If I remember right, the telnet port isn't insecure by itself, only
> > open telnet connections. So there really isn't anything to be said
> > for killing telnet for 'out of the box security' - if people use
> > telnet rather than ssh, they're going to enable it anyway.
> 
> I cannot quite parse what you are saying.  What does speaking about a
> port's security mean?

The telnet service open by itself poses no security risk.
The telnet service *in use* is a security risk.

I've had some feedback from people saying "why not use the internat
crypto dist?" .. thats all nice and good if I'm installing a box that
has internet connectivity. however, not all boxes have internet
connectivity. Yes, I could toast a CDROM with the added internat crypto
distribution and packages to make things work for us non-US people,
but its a pain in the ass and sometimes I just want to get the machines
-going- and then do remote work later.

As to the people saying "You can just enable it after boot!" .. well,
you could disable sshd and enable it after boot ... :-) I could validly
argue that enabling remote access of any kind by default when non-security-
conscious people are installing FreeBSD is a security risk.

But then I'd be getting pedantic. :)



Adrian

-- 
Adrian Chadd			Build a man a fire, and he's warm for the
<adrian@FreeBSD.org>		rest of the evening. Set a man on fire and
				he's warm for the rest of his life.



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