Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 13:20:34 -0600 From: Jeffrey McFadden <junkrigsailor@gmail.com> To: doug@safeport.com Cc: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: sour grapes .. was FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation Message-ID: <CAFpTYWOSG=q6tqPSJTEB0PRTP=kd09tfc1Pyu3tw9S=yDJ2phQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1201011223130.15394@fledge.watson.org> References: <CAGy-%2Bi-m7hUfrUPKaG6FAiv8cor6%2BWXUW-OwWA=uOAt0yDToag@mail.gmail.com> <201112302138.pBULcZfw076474@mail.r-bonomi.com> <CAO6-GAf=fjs4awwFVYPA2h-UNmA3Oa0-qj%2BPmCE8mi590N618w@mail.gmail.com> <4EFF19A7.2060800@ose.nl> <CAGy-%2Bi_SatydS_=a_pOVN6uwBfN2rU7kYWy78Ug=Nq=j3WrrAA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGy-%2Bi_QW78ezYv22YGUg3UCNa4xWdAnKfPMkQxGBfmmiDjK0g@mail.gmail.com> <4EFF94CA.3050304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101064247.3e8b0b56@scorpio> <4F00580D.1060208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101091420.117aa8f3@scorpio> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1201011223130.15394@fledge.watson.org>
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On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM, doug <doug@fledge.watson.org> wrote: > I wish someone with some FreeBSD weight would make this request, but I > think this thread got a little off topic. > Oh buddy... > > The main thrust of the FreeBSD project seems to be making the best server > OS possible. That I think they do that pretty well. I have long held that > to be viable long term in the server game you have to at least be credible > in the desktop game. I hope some of the desktop projects will bear fruit in > this area. I bought into FreeBSD as PC-BSD and am enjoying it greatly. It beats Windows, for me, and makes considerably more structural sense than the Linuxes I have experienced (Debian and, more recently, Ubuntu.) The boot configuration and directory structure is more comprehensible. If I were not too old and (more to be point) too obsolete technically I > would put my efforts where my thoughts lead me. As it is, I use FreeBSD as > a desktop because it requires me to get into areas just administering a > server farm would never take me. The upsie fpr me is that never crashes. > That it works okay on an 800MHz, 500MB old dell server does not hurt > either. The pain that comes with that is my choice. > I never had the skill and still don't. As users go I'm pretty knowledgeable, and in fact was once a Windows network desktop tech in a big hospital corporation, but as far as writing code and making a serious difference, nope, sorry, I never learned how. > > That said, FreeBSD has a giant disadvantage in the desktop world. In > trying to find if there will be any sort for my current laptop I don't know what your current laptop is, but PC-BSD is running fine on my Sony Vaio VPC-EC2TFX/W1, on my Asus eee, and it runs acceptably on my Toshiba Satellite U505-S2950, although it tend to forget the screen size on that one and need to be reminded from time to time. I came across a comment from Robert Noland saying that Xorg is becoming > more and more Linux centric. That is a problem the FreeBSD project can not > overcome. Sure it can, the same way Linux got where it is today - get people's interest. I think PC-BSD should help. Or, some FreeBSD project people can contribute to the Xorg project as well... it's not over, we're just where we are. > That along with the way Intel does its video drivers makes supporting new > stuff non trivial if not daunting. > And that, alas, is beyond my ability to even address. Jeff > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions<http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org <freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>" >
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