Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 11:11:09 -1000 From: David Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com> To: Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: HST time zone Message-ID: <CAFnjQbv5RqjMZBqcr4=4S9JLXpEwDVt8%2B4X2AtRPr%2B%2BHBu1Krg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <AA5CCCE5-B4D3-4EE7-9EB4-CAE735C0EDE9@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAFnjQbsuomQRg3rdgBJJUDuNPKK%2BdpC%2BVhL2qObM1XTTOWTrKQ@mail.gmail.com> <AA5CCCE5-B4D3-4EE7-9EB4-CAE735C0EDE9@FreeBSD.org>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:01 AM Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org> wrote: > On 25 Jul 2023, at 22:26, David Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com> wrote: > > > > One thing that has bothered me for a long time is that the > Pacific/Honolulu timezone is found under the America -- North and > South/United States of America/Hawaii in tzsetup. Politics of Hawaiian > Sovereignty aside, every other system I regularly install uses > Pacific/Honolulu as it is in the official tzdb. > > > > Is there any reason why a patch to change to match the standard would be > refused? > > Which version of FreeBSD are you using? On my 14-CURRENT box, Hawaii is > actually found in *two* locations in tzsetup: > > * America -- North and South -> United States of America -> Hawaii > * Pacific Ocean -> United States of America -> Hawaii > It just seems that the "standard" is Pacific/Honolulu and we are different - in the IANA tz db, there is only mention of Pacific/Honolulu. While I'm not saying they're correct, every Linux dist I've tried uses it. I have a mixed shop, and every difference is a potential problem. I doubt that this affects many people, so consistency would not seem a hardship. So that would serve all sides? :) > > As far as I can see, the menu is dynamically generated from > /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone1970.tab, which has: > > US +211825-1575130 Pacific/Honolulu Hawaii > > and seems to be up-to-date with regards to the IANA tz files. > > -Dimitry > > [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:01 AM Dimitry Andric <<a href="mailto:dim@freebsd.org">dim@freebsd.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 25 Jul 2023, at 22:26, David Cornejo <<a href="mailto:dave@dogwood.com" target="_blank">dave@dogwood.com</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> > One thing that has bothered me for a long time is that the Pacific/Honolulu timezone is found under the America -- North and South/United States of America/Hawaii in tzsetup. Politics of Hawaiian Sovereignty aside, every other system I regularly install uses Pacific/Honolulu as it is in the official tzdb.<br> > <br> > Is there any reason why a patch to change to match the standard would be refused?<br> <br> Which version of FreeBSD are you using? On my 14-CURRENT box, Hawaii is actually found in *two* locations in tzsetup:<br> <br> * America -- North and South -> United States of America -> Hawaii<br> * Pacific Ocean -> United States of America -> Hawaii<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">It just seems that the "standard" is Pacific/Honolulu and we are different - in the IANA tz db, there is only mention of Pacific/Honolulu. While I'm not saying they're correct, every Linux dist I've tried uses it. I have a mixed shop, and every difference is a potential problem.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I doubt that this affects many people, so consistency would not seem a hardship.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">So that would serve all sides? :)<br> <br> As far as I can see, the menu is dynamically generated from /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone1970.tab, which has:<br> <br> US +211825-1575130 Pacific/Honolulu Hawaii<br> <br> and seems to be up-to-date with regards to the IANA tz files.<br> <br> -Dimitry<br> <br> </blockquote></div></div>help
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