Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:21:43 -0600 From: Chris Lucas <admin@redshells.net> To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" <jon_slivko@simphost.com> Cc: Melon <melon@orangenetwork.net>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 137/udp Message-ID: <3A26A8C6.35B94E4F@redshells.net> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011301243140.29090-100000@alpha.simphost.com>
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I'm sure you would like to end this portion of the discussion, however that is not up to you. As far as your later statement I will quote: "the evidence that you have shown us appears to be consistent with the workings of an inexperienced user, not neccessarily (SIC) a child, mind you." Also, I never attempted to make a point that there are not many bright kids who are good on computers. So, with that said I will respectfully ask that this issue be put to rest and apologize to anyone who wasted their time reading these last few emails. Thank you "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > However, if you read my later statement, I said I agree that in this case, > the evidence warrents the assumption that it was a kid that launched the > udp sequence. However, there are alot of extremely bright kids out there > who are good on computers, hence the New York Times > (http://www.nytimes.com) article on it awhile ago. > > And, with that, I would like to end this portion of the discussion. > > ---- > Jonathan M. Slivko <jon_slivko@simphost.com> > Technical Support, CoreSync Corporation (http://www.coresync.net) > Team Leader, SecureIRC Project (http://secureirc.sourceforge.net) > Pager/Voicemail: (917) 388-5304 > ---- > > On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Chris Lucas wrote: > > > Hmm... I'm wondering where he said that 'all' teen computer users are stupid. > > The way I read it was that he thought he was hacked. I think we all can agree > > that the majority of hacking activity is coming from kids these days. Many > > older "hackers" know better and would rather not end up in jail, hence the > > reference to stupid kids. > > > > "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > > > > > I know that my response to this e-mail isn't technical, but a comment on > > > some of the language used on this mail that I am replying to. Apparently, > > > someone out there seems to think that all the teen computer users out > > > there are stupid kids. I fail to agree with you, even though I am a > > > "stupid kid" to put it in your words, even though I am 18 years old. So, I > > > personally take offense at that statement and would request that you > > > refrain from using such derogative statements in further e-mails on this > > > issue. This is a constructive e-mail list, and not a mail list where > > > people express their opinions on what other people, children no less > > > do. > > > > > > However, I do have to agree with you on one point, the evidence that you > > > have shown us appears to be consistent with the workings of an > > > inexperienced user, not neccessarily a child, mind you. But, that is > > > besides the point. I would have expected better language from a network > > > administrator, being that I am one myself, for a rather large company. If > > > you would like to take this matter up further, please don't hesitate to > > > E-Mail me personally. My E-Mail address is listed on the bottom of this > > > E-Mail. Thank You for your time. > > > > > > -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > > > > > ---- > > > Jonathan M. Slivko <jon_slivko@simphost.com> > > > Technical Support, CoreSync Corporation (http://www.coresync.net) > > > Team Leader, SecureIRC Project (http://secureirc.sourceforge.net) > > > Pager/Voicemail: (917) 388-5304 > > > ---- > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Melon wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > All network administrator may always see rejected 137/udp packet... > > > > > > > > I want to know how these udp packets are occured? > > > > I expect some stupid kids attacked me. However, is there any exception? > > > > > > > > Someone sent only 3 137/udp packets to specific IP address. In general, > > > > these stupid does not sent to specific IP address, sent to all IP > > > > addresses I have. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > > > > > > > - Melon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message
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