Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:36:56 +0200 From: Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> To: Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Gavin Atkinson <gavin@freebsd.org>, svn-src-stable-8@freebsd.org, Ken Smith <kensmith@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf Message-ID: <9bbcef730909100836l3835825cy83082a2cfe4da0c3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1252595839.75144.26.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> References: <200909101404.n8AE41C6021588@svn.freebsd.org> <1252592951.49151.3.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <1252595839.75144.26.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu>
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2009/9/10 Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu>: > On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 15:29 +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: >> This seems like a step backwards to me: crash dumps have been left >> enabled in 7.x and have proved very useful from the point of view of >> improved quality of received PRs. =C2=A0I'm not aware of any problems >> relating to leaving them enabled. >> >> I'd appreciate it if this decision was reconsidered. >> > > Unfortunately as I said before there is no "Right answer" for this one. No, but there is an "80% right" one, based on the question: did the change in 7 cause known problems for any significant number of users (or one of two big users - that should be enough). After all, if users were fine with crashdumps & symbols being enabled in 7, they should be find with them being enabled in 8. > If there is (a lot) more push-back on this we'll reconsider it. But the > AUTO setting is only appropriate for machines that are "actively being > watched over". In -stable branches we start to have people using it for > large data centers full of machines that are only "partially watched > over" at best as well as machines stuffed in phone closets in remote > locations, etc. Having the AUTO setting for situations like that can > mean increased time for a reboot to happen, there is extra risk of the > machine wedging and not rebooting at all (requiring manual intervention > to get it back up), there is risk of disk space issues, etc.
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