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Date:      Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:03:17 -0700
From:      joe mcguckin <joe@via.net>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
Cc:        Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Speed improvements in ZFS
Message-ID:  <20BA3146-9448-4B34-9B2A-ED591664B68F@via.net>
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When I watch the activity leds of the disks on one of our ZFS servers, I =
notice there will be a burst of activity for 3 or 4 seconds, then no =
activity for a couple of seconds, then it repeats.
Is that normal?

Thanks,

joe


Joe McGuckin
ViaNet Communications

joe@via.net
650-207-0372 cell
650-213-1302 office
650-969-2124 fax



> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Alexander Leidinger =
<Alexander@Leidinger.net> wrote:
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> Am 2023-08-15 14:41, schrieb Mateusz Guzik:
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>> With this in mind can you provide: sysctl kern.maxvnodes
>> vfs.wantfreevnodes vfs.freevnodes vfs.vnodes_created vfs.numvnodes
>> vfs.recycles_free vfs.recycles
>=20
> After a reboot:
> kern.maxvnodes: 10485760
> vfs.wantfreevnodes: 2621440
> vfs.freevnodes: 24696
> vfs.vnodes_created: 1658162
> vfs.numvnodes: 173937
> vfs.recycles_free: 0
> vfs.recycles: 0
>=20
>> Meanwhile if there is tons of recycles, you can damage control by
>> bumping kern.maxvnodes.
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> Looks like there are not much free directly after the reboot. I will =
check the values tomorrow after the periodic run again and maybe =
increase by 10 or 100 so see if it makes a difference.
>=20
>> If this is not the problem you can use dtrace to figure it out.
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> dtrace-count on vnlru_read_freevnodes() and vnlru_free_locked()? Or =
something else?
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> Bye,
> Alexander.
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I watch the activity leds of the disks on one of our ZFS servers, I =
notice there will be a burst of activity for 3 or 4 seconds, then no =
activity for a couple of seconds, then it repeats.<div class=3D"">Is =
that normal?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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McGuckin</div><div class=3D"">ViaNet Communications</div><div =
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href=3D"mailto:joe@via.net" class=3D"">joe@via.net</a></div><div =
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office</div><div class=3D"">650-969-2124 fax</div><div class=3D""><br =
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<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Alexander Leidinger &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Alexander@Leidinger.net" =
class=3D"">Alexander@Leidinger.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Am =
2023-08-15 14:41, schrieb Mateusz Guzik:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">With this in mind can =
you provide: sysctl kern.maxvnodes<br class=3D"">vfs.wantfreevnodes =
vfs.freevnodes vfs.vnodes_created vfs.numvnodes<br =
class=3D"">vfs.recycles_free vfs.recycles<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">After a reboot:<br class=3D"">kern.maxvnodes: 10485760<br =
class=3D"">vfs.wantfreevnodes: 2621440<br class=3D"">vfs.freevnodes: =
24696<br class=3D"">vfs.vnodes_created: 1658162<br =
class=3D"">vfs.numvnodes: 173937<br class=3D"">vfs.recycles_free: 0<br =
class=3D"">vfs.recycles: 0<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Meanwhile if there is tons of recycles, you can =
damage control by<br class=3D"">bumping kern.maxvnodes.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">Looks like there are not much =
free directly after the reboot. I will check the values tomorrow after =
the periodic run again and maybe increase by 10 or 100 so see if it =
makes a difference.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D"">If this is not the problem you can use dtrace to figure it =
out.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">dtrace-count on =
vnlru_read_freevnodes() and vnlru_free_locked()? Or something else?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Bye,<br class=3D"">Alexander.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">-- <br class=3D""><a href=3D"http://www.Leidinger.net" =
class=3D"">http://www.Leidinger.net</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:Alexander@Leidinger.net" =
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class=3D""><a href=3D"http://www.FreeBSD.org" =
class=3D"">http://www.FreeBSD.org</a>; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
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