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Date:      Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:03:17 -0700
From:      joe mcguckin <joe@via.net>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
Cc:        Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Speed improvements in ZFS
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When I watch the activity leds of the disks on one of our ZFS servers, I notice there will be a burst of activity for 3 or 4 seconds, then no activity for a couple of seconds, then it repeats.
Is that normal?

Thanks,

joe


Joe McGuckin
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> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> wrote:
> 
> Am 2023-08-15 14:41, schrieb Mateusz Guzik:
> 
>> With this in mind can you provide: sysctl kern.maxvnodes
>> vfs.wantfreevnodes vfs.freevnodes vfs.vnodes_created vfs.numvnodes
>> vfs.recycles_free vfs.recycles
> 
> After a reboot:
> kern.maxvnodes: 10485760
> vfs.wantfreevnodes: 2621440
> vfs.freevnodes: 24696
> vfs.vnodes_created: 1658162
> vfs.numvnodes: 173937
> vfs.recycles_free: 0
> vfs.recycles: 0
> 
>> Meanwhile if there is tons of recycles, you can damage control by
>> bumping kern.maxvnodes.
> 
> Looks like there are not much free directly after the reboot. I will check the values tomorrow after the periodic run again and maybe increase by 10 or 100 so see if it makes a difference.
> 
>> If this is not the problem you can use dtrace to figure it out.
> 
> dtrace-count on vnlru_read_freevnodes() and vnlru_free_locked()? Or something else?
> 
> Bye,
> Alexander.
> 
> -- 
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Alexander Leidinger &lt;<a href="mailto:Alexander@Leidinger.net" class="">Alexander@Leidinger.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Am 2023-08-15 14:41, schrieb Mateusz Guzik:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">With this in mind can you provide: sysctl kern.maxvnodes<br class="">vfs.wantfreevnodes vfs.freevnodes vfs.vnodes_created vfs.numvnodes<br class="">vfs.recycles_free vfs.recycles<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">After a reboot:<br class="">kern.maxvnodes: 10485760<br class="">vfs.wantfreevnodes: 2621440<br class="">vfs.freevnodes: 24696<br class="">vfs.vnodes_created: 1658162<br class="">vfs.numvnodes: 173937<br class="">vfs.recycles_free: 0<br class="">vfs.recycles: 0<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Meanwhile if there is tons of recycles, you can damage control by<br class="">bumping kern.maxvnodes.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Looks like there are not much free directly after the reboot. I will check the values tomorrow after the periodic run again and maybe increase by 10 or 100 so see if it makes a difference.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">If this is not the problem you can use dtrace to figure it out.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">dtrace-count on vnlru_read_freevnodes() and vnlru_free_locked()? Or something else?<br class=""><br class="">Bye,<br class="">Alexander.<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class=""><a href="http://www.Leidinger.net" class="">http://www.Leidinger.net</a>; <a href="mailto:Alexander@Leidinger.net" class="">Alexander@Leidinger.net</a>: PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF<br class=""><a href="http://www.FreeBSD.org" class="">http://www.FreeBSD.org</a>; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:netchild@FreeBSD.org" class="">netchild@FreeBSD.org</a> &nbsp;: PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>
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