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Date:      Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:59:36 -0600
From:      "Daryl Chance" <dchance@valuedata.net>
To:        <mathieu@amx.dyn.dhs.org>
Cc:        <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: 4.3-BETA world crashing 4.2-RELEASE kernel ?
Message-ID:  <000d01c0b239$13181800$0200000a@mike>
References:  <3AB8E402.51160B75@amx.dyn.dhs.org> <002e01c0b22b$da43fb00$0200000a@mike> <3AB8ED82.2D73F891@amx.dyn.dhs.org>

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I may go about it wrong, but when I upgrade releases I do this:

make buildworld
make installworld
reboot
<change to conf dir>
config <conf>
cd ../../conf/<conf>
make depend && make && make install && reboot

the gist, I think you need to build the world before the kernal....that
*might* be your problem, I don't know :).

HTH,
-
Daryl Chance       | And which parallel universe did
ValueData, LLC     | YOU crawl out of?
Memphis, TN        |      - http://www.thinkgeek.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mathieu" <mathieu@amx.dyn.dhs.org>
To: "Daryl Chance" <dchance@valuedata.net>
Cc: <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA world crashing 4.2-RELEASE kernel ?


> Interesting.. I didn't know -O2 could do that. :p
>
> But I don't think I compiled with any optimisations, nothing in my
> make.conf, nothing in my kernel config file. What I did to upgrade was
> CVSup, Backuping /etc, make buildkernel, make buildworld, make
> installkernel, reboot, make installworld, reboot, mergemaster, reboot !
> And then it worked fine for 24 hours ! Did I foget something ?
>
> Daryl Chance wrote:
> >
> > Are you compiling with any optimizations?  I had a problem similar
> > to this in that ssh, ftp, apache were running, and I could connect
> > on my internal network....but connections from the outside (like me
> > trying to connect to it from work) would either make it seem the
> > machine was "locked down".  you could ping and see that it was
> > alive, but you couldn't get in through SSH or anything else.  I
> > traced it down to a compile I did with kernal optimizations (-02),
> > so I turned that off, rebuilt the kernal, rebooted and all was fine.
> >
> > -
> > Daryl Chance       | And which parallel universe did
> > ValueData, LLC     | YOU crawl out of?
> > Memphis, TN        |      - http://www.thinkgeek.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mathieu" <mathieu@amx.dyn.dhs.org>
> > To: <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:25 AM
> > Subject: 4.3-BETA world crashing 4.2-RELEASE kernel ?
> >
> > > Hello !
> > >
> > > First, sorry I don't speak English very well :p Usually speak French !
> > >
> > > I have a problem with a FreeBSD server that is far far away, so I
don't
> > > have access to the console. As far as I know, it worked fine with
> > > 4.2-RELEASE for... hmm, 2 days, then I upgraded it to the latest
STABLE
> > > (4.3-BETA), and the server worked fine for 24 hours or so, but then,
the
> > > server locked up. It was still answering to pings, but all daemons
> > > weren't responding anymore. I could still telnet to it, but I was just
> > > not getting the login prompt, same thing for Apache, FTP, SSH... I can
> > > connect, but no answers.
> > >
> > > I asked to reboot it many time. And each time, I can telnet to it, and
> > > get the login prompt (!), but that's strange... seems it can't fork a
> > > shell... I don't even get the motd, just the "Last login from..."
thing.
> > > But sometime SendMail is working, and I could send mail to the account
> > > previously created on the machine. But all the servers always die in
> > > something like, 5 minutes.. Then it still answers to pings, but just
no
> > > answers from Telnet/Apache/FTP, etc... :(
> > >
> > > However, the technicians there were able to do a make world in single
> > > user mode, worked fine. But in multi user mode, the server seems to
> > > consume all his ressources, and then processes start to crash
randomly,
> > > and there is also files corrumption, and always some kind of error
> > > messages like "Cannot kill process", things like that, they don't know
> > > what's causing this.
> > >
> > > Of course, technicians there want to bill me 100$ to reinstall
> > > 4.2-RELEASE.. hehehe :p But luckily, I've backuped a 4.2-RELEASE
kernel
> > > in the root. So, now, the computer does exactly the same thing with
the
> > > 4.2 kernel, exactly. But those technicians still says that the problem
> > > came from the 4.3-BETA environnement (hmm, the "world" !), not the
> > > kernel, nor the hardware, so they have to "repair" what I've broken
($).
> > > :(
> > >
> > > So, is it safe to say that the world is indenpendent of the hardware
so
> > > this problem should reproduce on all 4.3 system around the planet
> > > (Hehehe, personnaly, it works fine on my computer ! :p), or could this
> > > really be a bug NOT in the FreeBSD kernel that causes the machine to
die
> > > in 5 minutes or so in multi user mode (even will it is idle !) ?
> > >
> > > Thanks ! And sorry for this long long long e-mail :p
> > >
> > > I've attached a DMESG from 4.2-RELEASE, sorry... I don't have a more
> > > recent one.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mathieu
> >
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