Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 09:32:22 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: George Neville-Neil <gnn@neville-neil.com> Cc: freebsd- <arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: A proposal for code removal prior to FreeBSD 13 Message-ID: <CANCZdfoosE0PhatmKAr9h6qTDSkBwqKo5F32BuapgbHyrrb6Ow@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <A7311E4F-5CD3-454C-98B3-926E9F427280@neville-neil.com> References: <A7311E4F-5CD3-454C-98B3-926E9F427280@neville-neil.com>
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On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 8:27 AM George Neville-Neil <gnn@neville-neil.com> wrote: > Howdy, > > A few of us are working on a list of programs and other code that we'd > like to remove before FreeBSD 13. If others with to collaborate on this > removal, or discuss it, please do so here. > > The list is being maintained on the project WIki: > https://wiki.freebsd.org/WhatsGoing/FreeBSD13 I'm in the process of writing some of the criteria I've been using to drive discussions. I've promised a formal policy for a long time, but that's turning out to be harder than I thought to write and have just documented the criteria I look at to do the cost / benefit analysis for things. It's skewed a bit towards old drivers and old architectures (or platforms within those architectures), but it's likely a useful snowman to work towards something better. https://wiki.freebsd.org/ObsoleteCriteria This doesn't get into the process at all of who to have the conversation with, what steps you go through to ensure that there's a transition plan for current users (if there's enough to warrant it), etc. It's just a set of things I've found useful to think about and that I think the project should adopt (with refinement) as a standard template to use when making these calls. I also hope that there's sufficient public discussion of the proposed removals individually. While you can't always get 100% agreement, you still need to have the discussions to make sure that you aren't blind to data that would stay your hand on deletion (or maybe even hasten it). Warner
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