Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:38:31 -0400 From: Nathan Mace <nmace85@yahoo.com> To: "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>, freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD over Redhat Linux? Message-ID: <20010917113831.3564a20d.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <200109170614.f8H6EVv65208@saturn.cs.uml.edu> References: <200109170614.f8H6EVv65208@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 02:14:31 -0400 (EDT) "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu> wrote: > > Nathan Mace writes: > > > as a recent convert from linux to freebsd...i can give you MANY reasons > > > > 1) RPM's suck....plain and simple. the ports collection beats RPM in > > every way > > Huh? The RPM system seems to work fine. Commonly people complain > about using random RPM files off the net, but hey, that is like > complaining that FreeBSD ports don't work so great on NetBSD. > You can even get source RPM files, if you feel the urge to waste > some CPU time. > > That said, Linux isn't stuck with RPMs. Here is how I upgrade a > system with Debian to the very latest stuff: > > apt-get update # download the latest package listing > apt-get upgrade # download and install anything that changed > > To install package "foo", I just do "apt-get install foo". > By default I get PGP-signed binaries, but I could opt for > source code instead. > what i meant by RPM's sucking is that you have to manually fix the dependecy problems. i know debian can do it for you too, but i'm not a big debian fan > > 2) the only way to upgrade from redhat 7.1 to 7.2(when it comes out) > > is to wipe out everything and re-install. > > No, Red Hat supports an upgrade install. You boot from the CD-ROM, > then tell the install program to do an upgrade instead of a fresh > install. You MUST NOT try to upgrade from a pile of loose RPMs! > Hmmm, I'm guessing that this is exactly what you did. > > If you would like to upgrade a live Linux system, you need to be > running Debian. In that case, even /sbin/init and the C library > may be fully upgraded without a reboot. > yes, the system i was trying to upgrade did have a number of 3rd party rpms installed, if thats what you mean. but having a number of ports installed on bsd doesn't mess up an upgrade does it? i think not > > 3)last week we had a webserver crash(hardware failure) it was running > > redhat 5.2. we got a new hardrive, installed redhat 7.1 and guess > > what? between 5.2 and 7.1 they changed the filesystem so that the old > > version couldn't read the newer version. i'm not sure if this was > > linux in general or redhat specifally. > > It's the same with BSD, in case you didn't know. Old versions of BSD > can not read newer UFS filesystems due to the file type code feature. > Elsewhere: MacOS got HFS+, Windows got FAT32 and NTFS, IRIX got XFS, > AIX and OS/2 got a new JFS... An upgrade may have new features, OK? > What a strange "problem" to be complaining about! > ok, you got me on that on. i was just suprised thats all, i mean you NEVER hear of a linux boxnot reading a linux partition unless it's a damaged partition, which in this case it wasn't. > > 4) ever tried to understand RH's /etc stucture? talk about symlink > > heaven > > This is the one true UNIX way. Red Hat looks pretty much like Solaris, > UnixWare, IRIX, HP-UX, and every other real UNIX. Either RTFM, or just > use the tksysv program to manage your run levels. > ummm...i just did an 'ls -l | more" in mt etc directory, and yes there are SOME symlink's but not like on a RH box. can you honestly say that you think RH's /etc directory is easier to understand that freebsd's /etc directory? not from i'm standing! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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