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Date:      Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:55:15 -0500
From:      Greg Rivers <gcr+freebsd-ports@tharned.org>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Python 2.7 removal outline
Message-ID:  <12069577.xkLNZX5ndW@no.place.like.home>
In-Reply-To: <14A27037-4174-4708-9AE3-16D599076639@gushi.org>
References:  <20210324130347.GA29020@freefall.freebsd.org> <8552dddf3bc33e42ae124cd4ea53fb4f@bsdforge.com> <14A27037-4174-4708-9AE3-16D599076639@gushi.org>

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On Friday, 26 March 2021 14:19:20 CDT Dan Mahoney (Ports) wrote:
> More thoughts on mailman, specifically:
>=20
> So, I just went to find an old FB post I made about mailman 2.x:
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D
> From the "Load Bearing B****it" department:
> Pretty much the entire world is stuck using an EOL'd mailing list manager=
 (mailman 2.x), which depends on an EOL'd python (2.7). =20
> This includes:
> * All the gnu mailing lists
> * All of the linux mailing lists at listman.redhat
> * all the FreeBSD mailing lists
> * all the sourceforge mailing lists
> * all the IETF mailing lists
> * all of lists.isc.org
> * NANOG
> =3D=3D=3D
>=20
> That=E2=80=99s an AWFUL LOT of sysadmins, network admins, and coders who =
looked long and hard at Mailman 3 and decided =E2=80=9Cthat=E2=80=99s not r=
eady yet=E2=80=9D.
>=20
> I think, if *nothing else*, tauthon needs to be stapled in for mailman, e=
ven if it lives under /usr/local/mailman/bin or something (and bakes in the=
 couple of dependencies).
>=20
> I know about the archive incompatibility.  There *might* be a GSOC projec=
t to fix it.  Maybe.  Other changes can happen with greater use, but clearl=
y there=E2=80=99s a first-mover disadvantage here.
>=20
I concur. The thought of losing Mailman 2.x fills me with dread.

=2D-=20
Greg





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