Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:05:04 -0600 From: Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com> To: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org> Cc: current <current@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Fast releases demand binary updates.. (Was: Release schedule for 2006 ) Message-ID: <43C67E30.7000603@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20060112155543.GY57606@FreeBSD.org> References: <43A266E5.3080103@samsco.org> <200601062220.13417.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20060112073733.GG84964@svcolo.com> <200601122112.13347.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <43C6560A.8020200@centtech.com> <20060112155543.GY57606@FreeBSD.org>
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Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Eric, > >On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 07:13:46AM -0600, Eric Anderson wrote: >E> That's true, if you can find a committer willing to help - and I think >E> that's the issue. I've tried numerous times to contact committers of >E> certain areas, asking quick questions, or things like 'if I build this, >E> would it be comittable?' - with about 80% of the time receiving no >E> response. Now, I'm not complaining, or claiming they should reply - >E> they are volunteers and already busy doing their regular life stuff in >E> addition to the FreeBSD code they contribute. I'm just mentioning it as >E> a data point, that it is pretty hard to find a committer willing to >E> mentor someone, or at a minimum, give them pointers. The -hackers list >E> is excellent as far as answering most technical questions (rapidly!), >E> but in the end, it is pretty difficult to find a committer to listen to >E> you, unless you already have patches ready to roll, since that takes >E> less time of course. > >First you should to check whether given person is active now in CVS and/or >mailing lists. If he is not, then you have a lesser chance to get answer. > > Yep, all the people I email are active on the lists, for sure, and almost always active (or extremely active) committers. >If he is active, then don't hesitate to ask for help. And don't be afraid >to send a reminded, if discussion freezes. > >And don't forget that email goblins can eat your email. This is quite often >a reason for "ignoring", at least for myself. > > Yea, I forget about that, thanks for pointing it out.. >E> Maybe, on the FreeBSD developers page, we could have a list of >E> categories and mentors for those categories for those willing to work on >E> code to contact with questions, etc. Then committers could volunteer as >E> a mentor for a category they enjoy.. Or is it enough to just post to >E> -hackers asking 'anyone want to mentor me?' ? > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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