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Date:      Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:00:21 -0800
From:      Jeff Lasman <jblists@nobaloney.net>
To:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why no Indians and Arabs?
Message-ID:  <3C1D0B65.2EF25180@nobaloney.net>
References:  <20011216124818.L62493@monorchid.lemis.com> <3C1C30A8.633D60A3@mindspring.com> <20011216160806.R62493@monorchid.lemis.com>

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Greg Lehey wrote:

> Certainly
> my intention was not to discriminate; quite the contrary.  I would
> find it sad if obvious differences can't be discussed.

When someone robs the store down the street and the radio station tells
me to be on the lookout, I'd like to know the ethnicity of the person
I'm looking for, as well as the hair color, if for no other reason than
to know I don't have to look at everyone.

If you and I were going to meet in a hotel lobby we'd probably ask each
other as well; it would be easier if we didn't have to look at every
green person who walked in because we knew we were purple and orange
respectively.

But to write software?  To correspond on a list?  I really don't think
it matters at all.  In fact, I think the best form of nondiscrimination
is to not keep track at all.  All systems that keep track find
themselves in danger of becoming pro-something or anti-something rather
than becoming equal opportunity.  For example, if the local university
(UCR, if anyone cares) really wants to just let people in without regard
to race, color, origin, etc., why do they even ask?

> I can't recall
> anybody getting upset, for example, when people asked why there are no
> female hackers.

Oh, but there are <wry grin>.

> there's no
> shortage of German hackers on the lists; let me know if you want a
> partial list.

How would you know if they're German?  Can you tell from an email
address?  I certainly can't.

Jeff (who's going to set up his first freeBSD system today or tomorrow)
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