Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 23:09:47 -0700 From: Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com> To: Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com> Cc: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vmware changes result in nasty bridging mess Message-ID: <398E52AB.5CAA967B@quack.kfu.com> References: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1000806190759.90634A-100000@fledge.watson.org> <398E0DC8.745E02F9@quack.kfu.com> <20000806224528.H95620@jade.chc-chimes.com>
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Bill Fumerola wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 06:15:52PM -0700, Nick Sayer wrote:
>
> > I think you're overreacting slightly.
>
> I don't think he is.
>
> > 1. You are probably the only person on the planet who has a machine with both
> > bridging and vmware who (aparently) doesn't intend to bridge the guest
> > onto the connected LAN. This means that you have an opportunity to customize
> > the startup script rather than insist that everyone have it the way you like
> > it.
>
> That's nice. If I didn't turn bridging on, I don't want it on.
Then edit the script and turn it off rather than insisting that the
whole
world do it the way you like it.
>
> I've been doing lots of recent ipfw testing recently and have compiled kernels with
> many different options that I have no intention of using just so I can test them
> as needed. I don't want some port turning them on by default. Lots of people
> just compile a kitchen sink kernel with all the firewalling options KNOWING that
> they can turn them on when they want them.
>
> > 3. POLA in this case is the opposite of what you think it is. People who
> > configure their kernels for bridging when they install vmware expect it to work
> > when they fire up the guest. They would be astonished if it didn't. People
> > bringing up vmware without bridging turned on would not see the behaviour you
> > castigate. I believe that everyone running vmware is in one set or the other. Except
> > you.
>
> I was astonished when I heard that vmware2 turned on bridgeing if it
> could find it.
I am astonished that it is causing you such mental trauma.
>
> On a side note, if I was a {ports ,}security officer, I would have already either
> commented out the offending lines or marked the port FORBIDDEN.
Then we have a difference of opinion.
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