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Date:      Tue, 29 May 2001 21:34:14 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        clemensF <rabat@web.de>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Build failure (long), was Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c
Message-ID:  <20010529213414.A13277@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010530054451.G591@spotteswoode.yi.org>; from rabat@web.de on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:44:51AM %2B0200
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On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:44:51AM +0200, clemensF wrote:

> > That's not how you're supposed to install sources.  Why did you
> > overwrite the old sources instead of replacing them?  Obviously that's
> > not going to delete any extra files removed since your older version.
> >=20
> > It would have been much more bandwidth-efficient to just use cvsup to
> > update your older sources in-place.
>=20
> that's what i did twice before that.  and old files can't be a problem,
> because they won't get referenced by the new sources, right?  and if they
> will get referenced, it could be only because there was no new version
> replacing it, right?

Wrong assumption.

> in the end this would lead to uncovering dependencies not covered by
> uptodate/current files stored on the cvsup-server by the current
> procedures.  i should add that i "rm -rf /usr/src"'ed all the old files
> a few days ago, because i knew i could always replace them with the
> versions on my (old) freebsd 4.0 cd's.
>=20
> that's obviously what happened.  or take the differences between
> /usr/share/mk/* and /usr/src/share/mk/*.  make buildworld, for example,
> calls tsort with the flag "-q", which does not exist in my version, so
> builds relying on on the order of symbols fail.  not surprisingly, fixing
> this peculiarity lets a build proceed much farther.

Aha, now we're getting somewhere.  Just what version are you trying to
update from, anyway?  tsort -q has existed since 1996.  Source-level
updates from a 5 year old system are by no means supported.

Kris

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