Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:10:12 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: I've got a major question... Message-ID: <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20190627081518.9dc6f3c2.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <c99b07c9-f497-b04e-ee40-a09aec33173d@sound-by-design.com> <CAHieY7RLfbTrqrUPnbTGA-bMnbmC7hYsmnPe%2B8Wb07NpWtsszQ@mail.gmail.com> <cdb5f984-d2cc-bf55-fb75-534b4aed48f9@sound-by-design.com> <20190626063443.51ad3f1b.freebsd@edvax.de> <CAHieY7Q-EZNYwKFXVUagMcfQj34g7nR4MXhpLYF7fS8hRmpYQg@mail.gmail.com> <20190627081518.9dc6f3c2.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:15:18 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >I know, this is a very individual point of view and experience, but >as you can see: It _is_ possible, and it starts with the right >decision. :-) Hi, it makes a big difference, if somebody needs to ask for recommendations or not. It makes a difference, if somebody is assuming "probably Canonical/Ubuntu would be a better fit than FreeBSD" or knows if it does or does not. Something to consider regarding Ubuntu support: "Universe The universe component is a snapshot of the free, open-source, and Linux world. It houses almost every piece of open-source software, all built from a range of public sources. Canonical does not provide a guarantee of regular security updates for software in the universe component, but will provide these where they are made available by the community. Users should understand the risk inherent in using these packages. Popular or well supported pieces of software will move from universe into main if they are backed by maintainers willing to meet the standards set by the Ubuntu team." - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories#Universe This is not an issue that affects just one application provided by Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1782984 It's an issue that affects all distros and tons of applications. FWIW Ubuntu 16.04 LTS isn't affect, but this old LTS still provides packages that are security risks, at least libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 comes to my mind. I know what I'm talking about: [root@archlinux moonstudio]# lsb_release -a LSB Version: 1.4 Distributor ID: Arch Description: Arch Linux Release: rolling Codename: n/a [root@archlinux moonstudio]# systemd-nspawn -q lsb_release -a LSB Version: core-9.20160110ubuntu0.2-amd64:core-9.20160110ubuntu0.2-noarch:security-9.20160110ubuntu0.2-amd64:security-9.20160110ubuntu0.2-noarch Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS Release: 16.04 Codename: xenial There's no paper shop without magazines promoting Linux container approaches as the ultimate solution for everything. Take, for example, Ubuntu's snap thingy. Due to the container approach some software might be unable to provide full functionality, since access to software outside the container could be tricky, even impossible. I'm absolutely pro Linux, FreeBSD and anything FLOSS for desktop computers, but to get work done, I'm using a proprietary product named after a fruit, too and I at least need to run wine-staging on Linux, too. Wine isn't without pitfalls. Assuming a company gets work done on proprietary operating systems, then ensure that migrating to FreeBSD or a Linux distro does provide what is needed and that the software worked in the past, at the moment and doesn't have dependencies against phase-out model libraries. Choosing a Linux distro is not easy to do and depends much on the target. Regards, Ralf
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