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Date:      Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:05:53 +1000
From:      Stephen McKay <syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au>
To:        Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>
Cc:        jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (Peter Jeremy), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au
Subject:   Re: Softupdates reliability? 
Message-ID:  <199908250605.QAA13045@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au>
In-Reply-To: <199908232243.AAA55756@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:43:00 %2B0200"
References:  <199908232243.AAA55756@yedi.iaf.nl>

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On Tuesday, 24th August 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote:

>Hmm. I would generally expect SCSI errors etc to occur. Assuming the driver
>reports those one would at least know the bus was whacko.

I saw no errors, but that's not entirely surprising since I was running X11
and by that time xconsole was probably swapped out, and the disk system
was stuck, so it wouldn't have been able to report anything.  I gave up on a
serial console a very long time ago because this machine is so reliable. :-)

Also, I recall (rumour?) that the ncr driver is not as robust in the face
of errors as the adaptec driver, at least with CAM.  Anybody know the facts?
I know, for example, that I can't get bad block lists using my scsi adapter,
but people using adaptecs can.  That shows that the ncr driver is in some
sense incomplete.  I've been meaning to look into that, but you know how
time gets away.

So, after all this, I still don't know if I have any real evidence of anything
at all.  I'll just have to keep at it until it happens again.

Stephen.


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