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Date:      Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:13:01 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Adrian Filipi-Martin <adrian@virginia.edu>
Cc:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, c@lemis.com
Subject:   Re: Fairings
Message-ID:  <19980128151301.26241@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980127233137.2714F-100000@mamba.cs.Virginia.EDU>; from Adrian T. Filipi-Martin on Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 11:34:57PM -0500
References:  <34CE72B9.7DE14518@whistle.com> <Pine.SOL.3.96.980127233137.2714F-100000@mamba.cs.Virginia.EDU>

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On Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 11:34:57PM -0500, Adrian T. Filipi-Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Julian Elischer wrote:
>
>> for those old-timers in FreeBSD...
>>
>> The originator of the original FreeBSD fairings
>> was spotted in SF-bay area yesterday..
>> (yes, the real JMj!)
>
> 	Heh, it is hard to forget jmonroy.  I just got interested in the
> QIC quarterly when he up and quit crossposting it. :-/
>
> 	Does anyone have a copy of the Fairings post any longer?  It
> doesn't come up when searching minnie.  I feel foolish not saving a copy.

From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr)
Subject: More on the Conflict of Interest
Message-ID: <jmonroyCHn46z.E0s@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 01:01:47 GMT
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                    More on the Conflict of Interest
                    --------------------------------
 
            Recently, in light of the ensueing processes which  are
        deteremined to their rightness,  I have been working on the
        projects that make my financial and professional interest.
        In short, I don't have time for petty in-fighting.
 
            I did not (and have not had) time to read the thread
        which mentioned the "non-merger" of the *bsd interests. So,
        comments by me at this time are without reflection on
        all the present facts.  Also, e-mail to me about the "moderator
        please resign, BS" is sitting in my in-box, and will not be answer
        until after "The Great Debate".

            I am aware that at times some of my comments seemed a bit of
        line, but without all the facts it is just that (a seemingly
        out-of-line-comment).  I really don't have time to play the games
        that people like T. Deradt want to play.  Comment about
        "net-bag-lady", "mentally-unstable", "politically-uncorrect"
        and "non-net-equitte" are plain bull, a waste of my time and
        show a great deal of unprofessionalisim by those involved.
        In addition, language of vulgar context is not appreciated in
        my "mbox".  In short, expect a harsher treatment by me to you
        (that take on these tactics).

            I will still be continuing with this newsgroup, but I must
        for the sake of the moronic-unstable-childish-pathetic-
        pre-adolescent-wannabes with dillusion of being the next Bill
        Gates take on new tactics:

            1) Don't expect fairings.
            2) If confused read #1.
            3) If you can't find a rule to apply read rule #1.
            4) If you work for BSDI, USL, Novell or UUNET read
                rule #1.
            5) If you want me to play by *your* rules read rule #1.
            6) If you want to reason with me, then send reasonable
                mail else read rule #1.
            7) If you've got a problem with my attitude or the
                way I say things read rule #1.
            8) If you are going to mail me a nasty "this posting
                is just your way of proving your a XXX" read rule #1.
            9) If you expect that I will do less on the account of
                a handful of wannabes, read rule #1.

            10) In case of any confusion, all the above tactics only
                apply to the moronic-unstable-childish-pathetic-
                pre-adolescent-wannabes with dillusion of being the
                next Bill Gates.

            11) This is a paranoid fantasy; have fun with it;
                read rule #1.


--
Jesus Monroy Jr                                          jmonroy@netcom.com
Zebra Research
/386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation

From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.bugs,comp.os.386bsd.apps,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: More on the Conflict of Interest
Date: 08 Dec 1993 10:09:36 GMT
In-reply-to: jmonroy@netcom.com's message of Tue, 7 Dec 1993 01:01:47 GMT

In article <jmonroyCHn46z.E0s@netcom.com> jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes:
	       1) Don't expect fairings.
	       2) If confused read #1.

I was confused.  I read #1.  I finally got it - you're a fellow
motorcycle rider, winter is approaching, and you're exhorting us all
not to expect fairings!  Sound advice too, should you happen to borrow
or rent someone else's motorcycle and be suddenly faced with a long,
cold ride without the benefit of any kind of wind protection.

		[ Lots more rules deleted, all referring back to the rule
		  about not expecting wind-chill protection ]

Sound advice here.  Remember, a good pair of gloves (leather, not
wool!  Wool may look warm but does nothing to keep the wind out!), a
thick muffler and a thick padded jacket will save you from looking
like Frozen-zombie-from-beyond-the-grave-man when you dismount your
trusty steed 50 miles later and find that you're barely unable to
detach your frozen fingers from the throttle.

Weather may turn cold, and long distance winter motorcycle commutes
may continue unabated, but of those of us who take sound advice of
Jesus to heart, many are cold but few are frozen.

				Jordan
--
(Jordan K. Hubbard)  jkh@violet.berkeley.edu, jkh@al.org, jkh@whisker.lotus.ie



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