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Date:      Fri, 24 Apr 2026 13:05:31 -0400
From:      Charles Sprickman <spork@bway.net>
To:        Anton Shterenlikht <lists@cmplx.uk>
Cc:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, stable@freebsd.org, pkgbase@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [HEADS UP] stable/15: new base packages for PAM, zstd
Message-ID:  <5019E502-8951-40E0-881C-9E08B3732308@bway.net>
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> On Apr 24, 2026, at 4:09 AM, Anton Shterenlikht <lists@cmplx.uk> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 09:54:41AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
>> On 4/23/26 01:13, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 10:18:39PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote:
>>>> Anton Shterenlikht wrote in <aeh6ddAuDClL4YFn@cmplx.uk>:
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 12:52:43PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/21/26 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 12:30:50PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote:
> 
> Does this mean my system is *not* a pkgbase system?
> I.e. one must use pkgbasify, as per
>  https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/show/pkgbase
> to convert an non-pkgbase 15.0 to a pkgbase 15.0?
> 
> I assumed that all I need is /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf
> with ports, ports-kmods and FreeBSD-base.
> 
> Time to rtfm I guess...

Where is the definitive documentation for pkgbase, conversion to same, and I guess really a general overview of what it is and "why"?

I generally have found the wiki to be out-of-date or just generally "unofficial" and the place one would go looking for information on something new before it's been released, things that are of interest to developers but not necessarily users... but with pkgbase in 15.x now, I kind of assumed we'd have a handbook chapter, or at least entries for converting and updating in the "EXAMPLES" section of the pkg manpage. This is kind of reminds me of BE's and how they just sort of became automatic with "freebsd-update" on ZFS systems and, while it's an excellent feature, I never found a good "how and why" doc on that either.

On documentation in general, I am perhaps a weirdo about this, but many times I can't quite wrap my head around something until I have the "why" of it - then things generally fall into place really quickly for me...

Charles

> 
> Thank you 
> 
> Anton
> 



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