Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:53:33 +0800 From: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <xcllnt@mac.com> Subject: Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls Message-ID: <557E4C3D.5080602@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-Vmomvt4AUQfuTC=CUbCBM00fNREoSH6RG%2B-N6%2BPo6OiaGjg@mail.gmail.com> References: <201506100127.t5A1RdX6051959@svn.freebsd.org> <20150612204309.11dd3391@kan> <20150613024916.GA98218@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <1434208622.1415.57.camel@freebsd.org> <C88CB169-12FE-4692-92AA-5C7D41BB61DF@FreeBSD.org> <557C661F.8080104@freebsd.org> <860017ED-D754-450C-865D-2D81A30C2212@xcllnt.net> <CAG=rPVd93Q18aYnSGSf_QH4C08RCq5wsdKQSNYTgWQ2huTbUHQ@mail.gmail.com> <20150614002640.GA2746@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAG=rPVfrM9SnqRU-g=L6Y39GM2yEd%2Bt6=UFhggauu0s3HJvpYw@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmomBOpOTeiF=toKFVRFavwFJg_js_O68z_%2B_xDxguqyB2g@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmokSu_oSiNNZKAGoof5d7SaAnO8F3TWjsxojQz5-7x1y=A@mail.gmail.com> <CAG=rPVdze=pe-x_ACX0BgwK3UNDgxSp_wyyLNTAoxE3Ons8Xgg@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmomvt4AUQfuTC=CUbCBM00fNREoSH6RG%2B-N6%2BPo6OiaGjg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/14/15 10:48 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 13 June 2015 at 18:22, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>> I guarantee that no matter what you've worked on, there's >>>> approximately five orders of magnitude of shipping devices whose >>>> entire storage space can be measured in 1 digit megabytes. Each year. >>> (And yes - there's an appreciable set of them for which freebsd boots, >>> runs and keeps running on them.0 >>> >>> You can buy em too, some of them even under $60. >> >> Can FreeBSD now not run on these systems because of libxo? > It's a tight squeeze as it is. Running in 8MB of flash (even if it's > compressed) is still an exercise in "what can you cut out." > > My point isn't that it isn't running because of libxo; my point is > that arguing about "embedded" involving "lots of storage" is woefully > incorrect and will continue to be until those gigabytes of storage are > available for a penny. Which yes, I'm guessing will happen in my > career - but it's also quite likely code bloat will continue to chase > that upward. do we have a WITHOUT_LIBXO option on sources? I believe we should.. > > > > -adrian > >
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