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Date:      Wed, 14 Sep 2016 11:33:31 -0600
From:      "Nelson H. F. Beebe" <beebe@math.utah.edu>
To:        Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        beebe@math.utah.edu, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ftpd leaks info which might be useful to an attacker
Message-ID:  <CMM.0.95.0.1473874411.beebe@gamma.math.utah.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1333775a-3398-ab93-66fe-6c381eb5c428@FreeBSD.org>

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Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org> writes today:

>> About the only useful way to use FTP any more is for anonymous read-only
>> access to download stuff from an archive -- and in that use case, a web
>> server is generally a much better choice.  FTP as a protocol is archaic
>> and needs to die.

I agree with the first point (up to the dash), but strongly disagree
with the second: FTP provides directory listing capability, whereas
HTTP does not.  I use "dir -tr" in FTP connections quite frequently,
and I find the timestamps in the directory listings critical
information that is routinely lost at many HTTP-only sites.

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