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Date:      Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:43:25 -0400
From:      Anish Mistry <mistry.7@osu.edu>
To:        Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Peter heads back to M$FT WinBloze [freebsd as viable desktop]
Message-ID:  <200207271243.25351.mistry.7@osu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20020726195011.N18019-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>
References:  <20020726195011.N18019-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>

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On Friday 26 July 2002 08:06 pm, Peter Leftwich wrote:
> Dear List, I've been reading some compelling posts lately about people
> giving up on FreeBSD, and may soon -- sadly -- join their ranks!
>=20
> (There was the guy who posted about FreeBSD being great for servers
> (surely) but falling short in the desktop/workstation/laptop AND
> ease-of-use category.  Now there's the thread about Dan wanting his xp
> back.  I can relate!)
>=20
> I gave up on Win98 SR1 (1 38gb partition on a 40gb HD) back in Feb 2002
> when I installed a Firewire card and Windows got super flakey on me.
> Didn't like me for that move.  I'd often abuse IE (browser) for hours u=
ntil
> it brought the stupid 16bit DOS-based OS down with it.  Well, after
> deciding "that's it" and some PartitionMagic four-ways, I blew the dust=
 off
> my FreeBSD 4.3 CDROMs and installed them by the seat of my pants, but c=
ould
> never get XFree86 3.3.6 working - blank screen!
>=20
> Well at some point recently I ran `boot0cfg /dev/ad0s2` which wiped my =
MBR
> completely (I just wanted to boot straight into FreeBSD but still keep =
the
> DOS slice around as mountable).  So now I'm on an old 8.4gb HD that I
> booted to absolutely $FREE$ :) floppies and put 4.6 onto, however, XFre=
e86
> 4.2.0 now suddenly works as does KDE and a very "krashy" Konqueror brow=
ser=20
(sigh).
>=20
> Realizing that plugins are impossible (Flash), and the hassle of gettin=
g
> sound players working and my Canon scanner and webcam and PDF readers a=
nd
> *.DOC readers, I think I may be out of the FreeBSD workstation game.
>=20
> Finally going from UNIX user (since 1992) to sysadmin was a terrific
> learning experience, but a "learning XP" seems more attractive for now
> especially as XP is built on (sort of) NT and is 32bit and uses protect=
ed
> memory ... until FreeBSD is 34,523,455% more of an OUT-OF-THE-BOX-GUI O=
S. :(
>=20
> Comments?  Admonitions?  Saving graces?
>=20
> --
> Peter Leftwich
> President & Founder
> Video2Video Services
> Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA
> +1-413-403-9555
>=20
>=20
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>=20
>=20
I thought that I'd bite on this thread since there have been quite a lot =
of=20
negative post on getting FreeBSD to work as a working and productive desk=
top. =20
My experience has been rocky, but about 3 months ago I was finally able t=
o=20
have nice desktop system setup using FreeBSD.  My config:
650 Mhz AMD Duron
VIA KT133A  Motherboard
Geforce MX 2 64MB
52X cdrom (generic)
3.5" floppy
Onboard Audio
Asante Friendly Net Etherfast 10/100 NIC
ATI TV Wonder VE
Handspring Visor Platinum USB
-----
Applicable Software:
X-Server 4.2
FXTV - for tv card
pilot-link - visor *
OpenOffice 1.0 (linux)
AIM 1.5234 (linux)
Mozilla 1.0 w/ shockwave/flash/java/realplayer (linux)
KDE 3.0
KMail
Gabber
Wine
QuickTime 6 (wine)
mplayer - play just about any video
mencoder - tv card recording
avidemux - divx editing *
xmbmon
gkrellm
linux_base 7.1
xchat
xmms
realplayer
There are probably more but these are the most used.
-----
The items with a * are ones which I had to modify the code to get working=
 on=20
FreeBSD, which for me wasn't a problem since I'm a coder, but also I do t=
he=20
same thing in windows, if I don't like something or want to fix it I code=
 a=20
solution, ie. I created my own windows shell (on my website) since I got =
fed=20
up with explorer, but anyway I understand that most people don't do this.=
 =20
The only thing that I can't do in FreeBSD is play games, which I don't pl=
ay=20
many and there are no accellerated nvidia drivers for my card.  One thing=
=20
I've noticed it that linux emulation is underused, that is the only way t=
o=20
get a lot of the mozilla plugins or OpenOffice to work easily.  I have be=
en=20
able to get all my hardware to work, and as long as I'm not doing and win=
dows=20
programming or want to play Age of Kings, I stay in FreeBSD.

If anyone wants instructions on getting any of the above applications wor=
king=20
on FreeBSD I'd be glad to help.

Good luck to all those trying to get FreeBSD as a workstation.
--=20
Anish Mistry
amistry@am-productions.yi.org
AM Productions http://am-productions.yi.org


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