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Date:      Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:12:44 +0200
From:      Emanuel Strobl <Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Cc:        Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com>, "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de>, Dmitry Mityugov <dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com>, Unix <unix@dominique-werner.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599
Message-ID:  <200508110012.55575@harrymail>
In-Reply-To: <42FA3DF7.2040800@dominique-werner.com>
References:  <42F7F7E8.1020507@mail.uni-mainz.de> <42FA3D44.2020502@mail.uni-mainz.de> <42FA3DF7.2040800@dominique-werner.com>

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Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2005 19:48 CEST schrieb Unix:
> O. Hartmann wrote:
> > Mike Jakubik wrote:
> >> On Wed, August 10, 2005 6:37 am, Dmitry Mityugov said:
> >>> There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other
> >>> models, that are supposed to work 24/7.
> >>
> >> Right, i have a dead 250GB Maxline Plus II drive on my desk, only
> >> after about 1.5 years. At least its still on warranty.
> >
> > On the other hand: In the department for physics of the athmosphere,
> > where I built six years ago a server for meteorological data, a RAID-5
> > with 4 older IBM U160 SCSI discs still works - 24/7. Never had a
> > problem!
>
> I still own old 1-2 GB old SCSI disks and these are still working, I
> also had an old 500mb SCSI disk that was in an old Mac that also worked
> but I trashed it since it was that old and no longer of use...

I have an old 700 MB WD IDE drive that still works fine and has about 6=20
years 24/7 survived. And I also had a 2000$ 73G SCSI IBM drive that lasted=
=20
for about 5 monthas and was that damadged that Convar sent it back without=
=20
one byte recovered! And I don't want to remember the 80GB WD drive that=20
lasted for 2 months......
Please, don't discuss about SCSI/ATA reliability, there are bad=20
designed/produced drives and there are good ones. You can't tell before,=20
only experience counts.
I can say only good things about Seagates Barracuda 7200.8 drives for=20
example. Some dozends are running for two years without _any_ single drive=
=20
failed. Also the Samsung (p)ATA drives are still running without any=20
single failure. And WDs once were perfect drices, but they also produced=20
crap. So you can't even be sure by vendor!

=2DHarry

P.S.: I'm planning to bring up a FreeBSD site which reflects hardware=20
compatibility experiences as well as long term experiences. I'll be back=20
if I have more...

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