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Date:      Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:31:57 +0100
From:      Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        Don Witt <witt@cylogistics.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, public@lists.pcbsd.org, midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org, general@desktopbsd.net, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, announce@lists.pcbsd.org, "'Marc G. Fournier'" <scrappy@hub.org>, 'Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez' <g.martinez@pcbsd.es>, 'Thorsten Glaser' <tg@mirbsd.de>, users@crater.dragonflybsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, miros-discuss@66h.42h.de
Subject:   Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
Message-ID:  <20081104083157.GB1381@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com>
References:  <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com>

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Quoting Don Witt, who wrote on Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 03:12:46PM -0800 ..
> This is very cool.  What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD.  Are these numbers
> accurate?


They are not not at all accurate.  What is being measured for FreeBSD e.g. is the willingness 
of people to do

<quote>
 For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to
 set things up.
</quote>

That has no relation with the total installed base of FreeBSD.  And then there
is of course the issue of corporations who do run *BSD but do not allow this kind
of information to go out into the world?

The other BSD derivatives are suffering from the same statistical problems.

So, accurate, no, not at all.

Wilko



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org;
> users@lists.dragonflybsd.org; netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org; Thorsten Glaser;
> Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez;
> midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org; miros-discuss@66h.42h.de;
> general@desktopbsd.net; announce@lists.pcbsd.org; public@lists.pcbsd.org
> Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
> 
> 
> As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+
> hosts 
> reporting in, with a break down as follows:
> 
>            PC-BSD           17 454 hosts
>            FreeBSD           5 526 hosts
>            DesktopBSD        1 919 hosts
>            NetBSD               86 hosts
>            MirBSD               21 hosts
>            OpenBSD              55 hosts
>            DragonFly            26 hosts
>            MidnightBSD          26 hosts
>            GNU/kFreeBSD          2 hosts
> 
> We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top
> 10
> being:
> 
>            United States           6 082
>            Russian Federation      1 836
>            Germany                 1 586
>            Australia               1 341
>            Ukraine                   997
>            France                    930
>            Japan                     898
>            United Kingdom            791
>            Canada                    767
>            Brazil                    729
> 
> Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org
> 
> Project Objective:
> 
> "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy
> and
> marketing of the *BSD operating systems."
> 
> 
> PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to
> enabled, 
> while the rest have to be enabled manually.
> 
> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to
> set 
> things up.
> 
> If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the
> report 
> script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is
> 
> being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is  required,
> 
> and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are
> 100% 
> optional ...
> 
> For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the
> word, we need more ...
> 
> 
> If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ...
> 
> -- 
> Marc G. Fournier        Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org)
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