Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:52:54 -0800 From: Patrick Fish (patrick@pwhsnet.com) <patrick@pwhsnet.com> To: "Defryn, Guy" <G.P.Defryn@massey.ac.nz>, <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Kernel visual screen Message-ID: <002c01c19c74$4942ab90$2300a8c0@zeus> References: <98B01D2717B9D411B38F0008C7840931057F352C@its-xchg2.massey.ac.nz>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Defryn, Guy
To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: Kernel visual screen
I have installed FreeBSD and it turns out that my networkcard does not show up.
I have inserted another NIC and I probably need to modify a few things.
How can I get back to the visual screen of the kernel you see when you install FreeBSD.
Last week I changed a NIC in another PC and reinstalled freebsd and it worked fine.
This time I want to avoid re-installing freebsd
Guy Defryn, mcp & A+
IT-support & webdesign
Institute of Food, Nutrition and Human Health
Private Bag 11 222
Massey University
Palmerston North, New Zealand
Ph: 06-3504336 ext 2037
E-mail: g.p.defryn@massey.ac.nz
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mistakes. That's OK.<BR> <BR> One thing we're going to
see a fair bit is people posting questions,<BR> believing they're
doing the right thing by posting here as newbies,<BR> not realising
how it works. If someone answers those questions the<BR> situation
will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone<BR>to<BR>
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either.<BR> <BR> So all questions, requests for help,
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newbies and focus more on our successes than on<BR> our temporary
imperfection. We can talk about things here that are<BR>not<BR>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=G.P.Defryn@massey.ac.nz href="mailto:G.P.Defryn@massey.ac.nz">Defryn,
Guy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
href="mailto:freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Kernel visual screen</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have installed FreeBSD and it
turns out that my <SPAN class=SpellE>networkcard</SPAN> does not show
up.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have inserted another NIC and I
probably need to modify a few things.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How can I get back to the visual
screen of the kernel you see when you install
FreeBSD.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Last week I changed a NIC in
another PC and reinstalled <SPAN class=SpellE>freebsd</SPAN> and it worked
fine.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This time I want to avoid
re-installing freebsd<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: olive; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-no-proof: yes">Guy
Defryn, </SPAN></FONT></I></EM><EM><I><FONT face=Verdana color=olive
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: olive; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-no-proof: yes">mcp
& A+</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><SPAN
style="mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><EM><I><FONT face=Verdana color=olive size=2><SPAN
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& webdesign</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><SPAN
style="mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: olive; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-no-proof: yes">,
Nutrition and Human Health</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><SPAN
style="mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><EM><I><FONT face=Verdana color=olive size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: olive; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-no-proof: yes">Private
Bag 11 222</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><SPAN
style="mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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color=olive size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: olive; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-no-proof: yes">Massey</SPAN></FONT></I></EM></st1:PlaceName><EM><I><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: olive; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-no-proof: yes">
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: olive; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-no-proof: yes">Palmerston
North, </SPAN></FONT></I></EM><st1:country-region><st1:place><EM><I><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: olive; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-no-proof: yes">New
Zealand</SPAN></FONT></I></EM></st1:place></st1:country-region><SPAN
style="mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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