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Date:      Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:56:29 +0100
From:      Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org>
To:        Eric Turgeon <ericbsd@freebsd.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org,  dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: 53a487364cb3 - main - deskutils/mozo: switch to GitHub source
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(...)

And I forgot to say:

As others committers said too, this kind of change could (or should) be
made when a new release is up. Until then you should keep port as is.
Your latest commit 8c163b9c
<https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/ports/commit/?id=8c163b9cffe8169ae2f1512ccbaef8c07a50dd3e>;
("x11/mate-session-manager:
switch to GitHub release asset"):

- shows that you don't use USE_GITHUB=nodefault: OK
- that you bumped portrevision without build changes (same distfile and
checksum): NOT OK

Even you did changed MASTER_SITES for any other reason, you don't have do
bump it.
Bumping a port, means that it will be rebuild by everyone.

Short version is to leave ports untouched until a new release is out. :)

Thanks,

Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org> escreveu (quarta, 17/06/2026 à(s)
23:23):

> Hello Eric,
>
> Most of ports I maintain are spoted by portscout but I also rely on gh
> notifications and mailing subscriptions to get all ports covered.
> But yes, I believe that some gh ports need portscout config.
>
> I saw in your latest commits that you did portscout adjustments. For sure
> that I will need to do the same.
> It's on my TODO list now :)
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Eric Turgeon <ericbsd@freebsd.org> escreveu (quarta, 17/06/2026 à(s)
> 23:01):
>
>> I was not sure how to convert it. I will remove that I have other things
>> to clean.
>>
>> Today I was looking at your ports, and do your ports get portscout
>> notifications?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Eric TurgeonFreeBSD ports committer*
>> www.freebsd.org
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 5:40 PM Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Eric,
>>>
>>> I did noticed that you being using `USE_GITHUB=nodefault` toguether with
>>> MASTER_SITES for a single distribution file that cames from a static URL.
>>> Is there a special reason for it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Turgeon <ericbsd@freebsd.org> escreveu (quinta, 28/05/2026 à(s)
>>> 12:54):
>>>
>>>> I get that, the only thing is I rarely use the ports handbook nowadays.
>>>> ALso for the GitHub part I would never read that since I am used to using
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> I have started to convert them to use the assets.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Eric TurgeonFreeBSD ports committer*
>>>> www.freebsd.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 8:26 AM Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I converted all ports that I could to use release assets when possible
>>>>> after waisting 3 months convincing around 50 GH upstream projects to
>>>>> provide release assets.
>>>>> Again, this reccomendation is from GH itself and it is present on
>>>>> Porter's Handbook as a warning so people can see it and, hopefully, follow
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I converted 2 MATE ports like that in the past, and no one
>>>>>> pointed that out to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The docs I am removing are the gtk-doc API reference manual. If
>>>>>> FreeBSD wants to keep that in, I can remove them on the GhostBSD side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Eric TurgeonFreeBSD ports committer*
>>>>>> www.freebsd.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Nuno Teixeira
>>>>> FreeBSD UNIX:  <eduardo@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  https://FreeBSD.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nuno Teixeira
>>> FreeBSD UNIX:  <eduardo@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  https://FreeBSD.org
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Nuno Teixeira
> FreeBSD UNIX:  <eduardo@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  https://FreeBSD.org
>


-- 
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FreeBSD UNIX:  <eduardo@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  https://FreeBSD.org

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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>(...)<br><br></div>And I forgot to say:<br><br></div>As others committers said too, this kind of change could (or should) be made when a new release is up. Until then you should keep port as is.<br></div>Your latest commit <a href="https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/ports/commit/?id=8c163b9cffe8169ae2f1512ccbaef8c07a50dd3e" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">8c163b9c</a> (&quot;x11/mate-session-manager: switch to GitHub release asset&quot;):<br><br>- shows that you don&#39;t use USE_GITHUB=nodefault: OK<br></div>- that you bumped portrevision without build changes (same distfile and checksum): NOT OK<br><br></div>Even you did changed MASTER_SITES for any other reason, you don&#39;t have do bump it.<br></div>Bumping a port, means that it will be rebuild by everyone.<br><br></div>Short version is to leave ports untouched until a new release is out. :)<br><br></div>Thanks,</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Nuno Teixeira &lt;<a href="mailto:eduardo@freebsd.org">eduardo@freebsd.org</a>&gt; escreveu (quarta, 17/06/2026 à(s) 23:23):<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hello Eric,<br><br></div>Most of ports I maintain are spoted by portscout but I also rely on gh notifications and mailing subscriptions to get all ports covered.<br></div><div>But yes, I believe that some gh ports need portscout config.<br><br></div><div>I saw in your latest commits that you did portscout adjustments. For sure that I will need to do the same.<br></div><div>It&#39;s on my TODO list now :)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Eric Turgeon &lt;<a href="mailto:ericbsd@freebsd.org" target="_blank">ericbsd@freebsd.org</a>&gt; escreveu (quarta, 17/06/2026 à(s) 23:01):<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I was not sure how to convert it. I will remove that I have other things to clean.<br><br></div><div>Today I was looking at your ports, and do your ports get portscout notifications?</div><div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr"><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><b>Eric Turgeon<br><br>FreeBSD ports committer<br></b></font></font></font></span></div><div><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><a href="http://www.freebsd.org" target="_blank">www.freebsd.org</a><br></font></font></font></span></div><div><span></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><b></b></font></font></font></span><span><font color="#888888"></font></span></span><div><span></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><b></b></font></font></font></span><span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 5:40 PM Nuno Teixeira &lt;<a href="mailto:eduardo@freebsd.org" target="_blank">eduardo@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hello Eric,<br><br></div>I did noticed that you being using `USE_GITHUB=nodefault` toguether with MASTER_SITES for a single distribution file that cames from a static URL.<br></div><div>Is there a special reason for it?<br><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Eric Turgeon &lt;<a href="mailto:ericbsd@freebsd.org" target="_blank">ericbsd@freebsd.org</a>&gt; escreveu (quinta, 28/05/2026 à(s) 12:54):<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I get that, the only thing is I rarely use the ports handbook nowadays. ALso for the GitHub part I would never read that since I am used to using it.</div><div><br></div><div>I have started to convert them to use the assets.</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr"><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><b>Eric Turgeon<br><br>FreeBSD ports committer<br></b></font></font></font></span></div><div><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><a href="http://www.freebsd.org" target="_blank">www.freebsd.org</a><br></font></font></font></span></div><div><span></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><b></b></font></font></font></span><span><font color="#888888"></font></span></span><div><span></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><b></b></font></font></font></span><span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 8:26 AM Nuno Teixeira &lt;<a href="mailto:eduardo@freebsd.org" target="_blank">eduardo@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I converted all ports that I could to use release assets when possible after waisting 3 months convincing around 50 GH upstream projects to provide release assets.<br></div><div>Again, this reccomendation is from GH itself and it is present on Porter&#39;s Handbook as a warning so people can see it and, hopefully, follow it.</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I converted 2 MATE ports like that in the past, and no one pointed that out to me.<br><br></div><div>The docs I am removing are the gtk-doc API reference manual. If FreeBSD wants to keep that in, I can remove them on the GhostBSD side.</div><div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr"><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><b>Eric Turgeon<br><br>FreeBSD ports committer<br></b></font></font></font></span></div><div><span><font color="#888888"><font><font color="#000000"><a href="http://www.freebsd.org" target="_blank">www.freebsd.org</a><br></font></font></font></span></div><div><span></span></div><span></span><span></span></span><div><span></span></div><span></span><span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="all"></div></blockquote></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#888888">Nuno Teixeira</font></div><div><div><font color="#888888">
FreeBSD UNIX:  &lt;eduardo@FreeBSD.org&gt;   Web:  <a href="https://FreeBSD.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://FreeBSD.org</a><br></font></div></div></div></div></div>;
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</blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#888888">Nuno Teixeira</font></div><div><div><font color="#888888">
FreeBSD UNIX:  &lt;eduardo@FreeBSD.org&gt;   Web:  <a href="https://FreeBSD.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://FreeBSD.org</a><br></font></div></div></div></div>;
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</blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#888888">Nuno Teixeira</font></div><div><div><font color="#888888">
FreeBSD UNIX:  &lt;eduardo@FreeBSD.org&gt;   Web:  <a href="https://FreeBSD.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://FreeBSD.org</a><br></font></div></div></div></div>;
</blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#888888">Nuno Teixeira</font></div><div><div><font color="#888888">
FreeBSD UNIX:  &lt;eduardo@FreeBSD.org&gt;   Web:  <a href="https://FreeBSD.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://FreeBSD.org</a><br></font></div></div></div></div>;
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