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Date:      Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:00:18 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Willem Jan Withagen <wjw@digiware.nl>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ftpd don't record login in utmpx
Message-ID:  <20150331130018.GA23643@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <551A9759.2020004@digiware.nl>
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 02:47:21PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:

> On 31-3-2015 13:02, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:28:04PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
> > 
> >>>> Slawa,
> >>>>
> >>>> I can't tell you that, but it is in r202209. And you can ask the one
> >>>> that removed it (ed@). :)
> >>>> Like r202209 says 5 years ago:
> >>>> 	Maybe we can address this in the future if it turns out to be a
> >>>> 	real issue.
> >>>
> >>> What about issue talk?
> >>> Opened file outside chroot? /dev/null and /var/run/logpriv still opened.
> >>> Disabling logging for chrooted accounts? Realy?!
> >>
> >> Read the submit message!? The reason is there, nothing with security as 
> >> I read it, but it just did not fit into the way the new lib for wtmp 
> >> worked/works.
> > 
> > I read it. And I don't understund it. May be I don't know somewere.
> > Or missed. Can you explain?
> 
> In 9.0 the utmp stuff got rewritten, IIRC by Ed Schouten. But with the
> consequence that the API changed. And now it is no longer possible
>  * to open a file at init,
>  * keep it open while chrooting.
>  * write records when needed.
> The interface is just completely different.
> 
> Check:
> man utempter_add_record
> 
> If you want the old behaviour, you have to dig into the code, and DIY.

I understund, thanks.

> 
> Bluntly put: I don't think anybody is going to fix YOUR problem. If only
> because in 5 years time nobody had an issue with it.

Now I see root of problem.
I can choose what do: patch ftpd, do nothing or something else.


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