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Date:      Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:36:22 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
To:        synk@swcp.com (Brendan Conoboy)
Cc:        security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: make world clobbers (was Re: some nice advice...)
Message-ID:  <199906181136.GAA43699@aurora.sol.net>
In-Reply-To: <199906180511.XAA15842@kitsune.swcp.com> from Brendan Conoboy at "Jun 17, 1999 11:11: 6 pm"

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> > By definition, one isn't too interested in running "make world" on an
> > application-server-platform class machine.  You're looking for a platform
> > on which to run some application, and about the only thing you'll ever
> > need to patch would be the kernel.  Anything else (bugs in userland) is
> > merely an annoyance that you can live with because you didn't need any of
> > that stuff anyways.  And if you _do_ need to upgrade, you'll do it from
> > a binary distribution, not from source, because you can't really afford
> > to have your application server offline for the unnecessary luxury of
> > building the world.
> 
> Er, don't you upgrade from source when there's a security problem in
> userland but no new binary distribution?  I do.

No.  There are few such issues that can matter in a properly secured
system (you can't exploit suid programs that are missing the suid bit,
for example) and almost every other problem has some other trivial
workaround.  I can't think of a case in recent times where this isn't
true...

... Joe

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