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Date:      Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:50:22 -0500
From:      linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon)
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        edwin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports
Message-ID:  <20051018155022.GC11790@soaustin.net>
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On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 06:55:25PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
> That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against.  I  
> have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days  
> because they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning  
> but misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to  
> eclipse tools too.

Well, I was completely shocked to find out that 'emacs' is not a virtual
category.  This is clearly just a bug and needs to be fixed.  This is
especially more shocking since 'elisp', which should be a strict subset,
is a virtual category:

  http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/elisp.html

Related note: as of a few hours ago, I've taken a first whack at what I
feel is another part of this overall problem.  The main ports web page at
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ has always just presented the links to the
various ports categories alphabetically in one huge list.  IMHO that's
just simply unreadable.  What I've done now (with Edwin Groothius' help
to do the actual implementation) is split them up by logical groups.
While completely inadequate for 'true' browsing it is at least one piece
of the puzzle.

Adding 'emacs' and 'eclipse' virtual categories is something further that
we could do quickly, for a fairly low cost, and get an immediate benefit from.

mcl



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