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Date:      Tue, 8 May 2001 07:58:35 +1000 (EST)
From:      jason andrade <jason@dstc.edu.au>
To:        Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>
Cc:        hubs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master
Message-ID:  <Pine.OSF.4.20.0105080751520.7520-100000@azure.dstc.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <20010507164104.I3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>

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On Mon, 7 May 2001, Will Andrews wrote:

> > I have always kept one usable Alpha -current snapshot on the FTP site.
> > current.freebsd.org isn't mirrored, thus anyone wanting to access it has
> > to do to that one site.  Why mirror ftp.freebsd.org at all then?
> > BTW, my experiences for the past several years is that connectivity to
> > current.freebsd.org is less than usable quite often.
> 
> Well, I doubt that many people use the snaps at all.  So I think having
> separate sites for them is an OK idea.  Perhaps we should keep a small
> number of "known working" snaps on the ftp site, I guess.

i also doubt many people use the snapshots.  from observation, they either
checkout stuff via cvsup and make world, or else they use the RCs when that
is publicised.

the freebsd model of RCs was quite different this time around, from most
of the other distros in that it was a relatively short period between
going from RC1 -> RC5 -> release..  this meant except for the `main'
archive, most mirrors i was trying to rsync from weren't catching up and
a lot of users i talked to either didn't download a RC, or preferred to
avoid all of this and just use cvsup to update instead.


if snapshots are being distributed then IMHO this needs to be according to
a well publicizied system:

o limit the snapshots to only one releases per arch

o don't ever have 600M iso files in any snapshots (unless we can think of
  some sensible way to avoid redownloading 600M each time this changes)

o don't create any package trees within snapshots

o ideally, have /snapshots/i386/4.X-snapshot etc.. and symlink 4.X-DATE to it
  to help rsync users not have to have the whole thing deleted and then refetched
  because the name of the root directory has changed, even if all the filenames
  are still the same within it.

cheers,

-jason


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