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Date:      Wed, 22 Mar 2017 23:25:11 -0400
From:      Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in>
To:        William Dudley <wfdudley@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: how do I get STARTTLS working with sendmail on FreeBSD 10.3 ?
Message-ID:  <8CDAF29F-034A-4BC5-8727-4EC0B39331F6@ohlste.in>
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Your entire question is ridiculous since Sendmail will never be useful for r=
etrieving email from a remote server. Ever. To do that you need a POP/IMAP s=
erver. That was my point. Still is.=20

I only suggested you consider another agent since this one is proving diffic=
ult for you to configure. I never said you "had to" do anything, but you wil=
l need more than Sendmail to use your phone's email client.=20

But keep going, you're doing great.=20

Jim Ohlstein

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 10:41 PM, William Dudley <wfdudley@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> There's another layer in there, popd or imapd or whatever, but the point i=
s, I've been
> using sendmail on FreeBSD for at least a decade.  I had STARTTLS working w=
ith sendmail
> just last year.  So your assertion that I have to run some other MTA could=
 not be true.
>=20
> But thanks for your time.  I welcome all suggestions, even ones that don't=
 pan out.
>=20
> Bill Dudley
>=20
>=20
> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>=20
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>=20
>>> On 3/22/17 8:32 PM, William Dudley wrote:
>>> I have news for you.  Unless this feature was just removed from
>>> sendmail/FreeBSD, it should
>>> work.  It WAS WORKING until November 2016.
>>=20
>> That would be news. I guess you have a super Sendmail that listens for an=
d accepts POP3(s)/IMAP(s) connections. That would be interesting since Sendm=
ail is an SMTP(s) server. I won't bother you again since you are clearly mor=
e knowledgeable than I.
>>=20
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in
>>> <mailto:jim@ohlste.in>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>     Hello,
>>>=20
>>>     On 3/18/17 6:44 PM, William Dudley wrote:
>>>=20
>>>         A google search does not reveal a useful answer.
>>>=20
>>>         I just want to use a self-signed certificate so I can get my
>>>         email from my
>>>         FreeBSD mail server to my cell phone.  My FreeBSD server runs
>>>         sendmail.
>>>         I don't really want to switch to postfix, qmail, etc. etc.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>     I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you after all this time and
>>>     effort, but AFAIK Sendmail speaks neither POP3 nor IMAP so you
>>>     cannot use it as an MDA. You can use it to *send* email from your
>>>     phone, but not to retrieve it. You also can use it to forward mails
>>>     to another email address from which you can retrieve it, of that's
>>>     what you want.
>>>=20
>>>     If you want to retrieve emails using your phone's email client, you
>>>     will need an MDA. I use mail/dovecot2.
>>>=20
>>>     I know that you do not want to install a different MTA, but after
>>>     all this effort I'd suggest trying Exim. TLS is supported out of the=

>>>     box (in the default ports/packages configuration) and is extremely
>>>     easy to configure [1]. You can use Dovecot authorization [2] with
>>>     Exim, killing two birds with one stone.
>>>=20
>>>     [1]
>>>     http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-encrypte=
d_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html
>>>     <http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-encrypt=
ed_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html>
>>>     - see Section 6
>>>=20
>>>     [2] http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/EximAndDovecotSASL
>>>     <http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/EximAndDovecotSASL>;
>>>=20
>>>     --
>>>     Jim Ohlstein
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>     "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the
>>>     difference." - Mark Twain
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Jim Ohlstein
>>=20
>>=20
>> "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the differenc=
e." - Mark Twain
>=20



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