Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 20:57:47 +0300 From: Vadim Goncharov <vadimnuclight@gmail.com> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: void <void@f-m.fm>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of armv7 Message-ID: <20251117205747.72e3bdca@nuclight.lan> In-Reply-To: <fdcf71d8-7af8-4ad5-8233-5e1f837eb83b@FreeBSD.org> References: <8aa378a1-94fb-4cb1-9bca-8e68eb8e0938@FreeBSD.org> <CAJ-Vmonf37A6Wzc01dCTJc3qdWq6f0CNvWPh%2BS0s9GD=aiwvLQ@mail.gmail.com> <CANCZdfpW%2BGiCbSHuaZbOnNXXqqtm%2BMv3qJmHpYRXBJKbcJOq9Q@mail.gmail.com> <aRjG_eZ8mqUyebgY@int21h> <CANCZdfqqWET_F54%2Bf8JKkdCbg7BYt-F5FOEXrPg6u7EwtUjWqg@mail.gmail.com> <aRjRFwK3Iswols0Y@int21h> <fdcf71d8-7af8-4ad5-8233-5e1f837eb83b@FreeBSD.org>
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 12:08:29 -0500 John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > On 11/15/25 14:14, void wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2025 at 11:44:42AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > > >> Community surveys, show of hands at conferences, mailing list traffic and > >> armv7 package downloads (this is second hand). > > > > Hmm. OK. But you'd never have counted my usage for example, and I > > use 3x rpi2b's. > > > > I've never seen a survey about this and I've never attended a > > conference. Much of the time if there's an issue I'd > > search first before posting on freebsd-arm@. > > I think it's reasonable to assume I'm not alone in this. > > There is an annual user survey broadcast to announce@, etc. Please > do fill it out the next time it is offered. The last survey was posted > in April of 2025, so I expect the next one to be around the same > timeframe in 2026. Many FreeBSD users are not subscribed and do not fill surveys. Seems that it should be some more aggressive stats gathering, e.g. enabled by default periodic scripts transmitting anonimized usage (this could be done even via things like modifying URL for pkg's vuln.xml fetching), questions in the installer, and/or other things. -- WBR, @nuclight
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