Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:33:02 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> Cc: Kris Kirby <kris@catonic.net>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual CPU Xeon server hangs on SMP kernel ... Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010191112010.974-400000@thelab.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <200010182344.QAA18472@usr01.primenet.com>
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Okay, attached are dmesg outputs for the MP hang and the UP boot, as
wellas an mptable from the UP boot ...
Pulling out the points you brought up, things look the same in the dmesg
output:
new-demeter# grep Origin *.dmesg
MP.dmesg: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0
UP.dmesg: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0
grep Features *.dmesg
MP.dmesg: Features=0x387fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
UP.dmesg: Features=0x387fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
but, in mptable, my 'step' is different on this machine:
--
Processors: APIC ID Version State Family Model Step Flags
1 0x11 BSP, usable 6 10 0 0x0301
0 0x11 AP, usable 6 10 1 0x0301
where on another one of my Dual processor machines, the step's are equal?
Okay, try to put a bit more detail on the machine in here ... on booting,
it comes up with recognizing two CPUs (BSP is P2, AP is P1)
BIOS Build Level - MWE119AUS
BIOS Revision - 2
SP ROM Build Level - MWET14A
SP ROM Revision Level - 4
Machine Type (Netfinity 7100) - 86663RY
System Board ID - J1DD0039039
System Info shows:
Pentium III Xeon A1 Stepping
Pentium III Xeon A0 Stepping
And, goign through all the menus in the BIOS, I can't see any reference to
Unixware, or anything that I can change/scroll though that has it as an
option ...
When the system hangs, I can hit ctl-alt-del to reboot the machine, but,
with DDB enabled, I can't seem to get into there, but am not sure if that
is something to do with my console switch or not ... if there is something
I can try in DDB that will provide more information, please let me know
and I'll try and figure out how to get it to ddrop into it ...
There, I think that this pretty much answers every/anything you asked
about this time? :)
Thanks ...
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > > Okay, since I can't actually boot into SMP, how would you suggest I get
> > > > that information? MPtable I know how to get, and can do that without
> > > > being in SMP, so will get that one later tonight and send it on, but any
> > > > sugggestions on how to get the dmesg from an actual SMP boot is most
> > > > welcome?
> > >
> > > Pull the keyboard and connect to the box with a null-modem connected to
> > > COM1 of the Xeon box. Capture to logfile. cat ~/logfile | mail
> > > freebsd@lists.
> >
> > damn, I was afraid that was going to be the only solution :( ah well,
> > will try and get into office tonight and do this ...
>
> It's important to see the stuff that comes up differently
> when attempting an SMP boot.
>
> However, assumming you had a UP boot in hand, you could get
> most of the information by comparing it to a hung SMP boot,
> and manually filing in the differences.
>
> The first thing to check is that chipset features, Id, and
> stepping are identical; if they aren't, you could have
> problems.
>
> The other issues are MPtable version, interrupt routing, and
> BIOS programming of your chipset (in general, I think that
> selecting "UnixWare" has shown the most overall success, but
> ou may need to go into advanced BIOs options for specific
> settings).
>
> BIOS versions and other stuff are also useful.
>
> The reason you didn't get this shotgun to start with (the way
> you asked the questions is basically a request for a shotgun)
> is that it's more useful to the project as a whole to know
> exatly why you are failing, so that it can be surgically
> corrected. Giving you a shotgun, and getting back a "Thanks;
> it works now" message doesn't provide a way for changing the
> code to avoid your situation in the future, and handing out
> shotguns for all of eternity isn't really a tenable support
> situation.
>
> Now that I've given you a shotgun, at least fire off only one
> pellet at a time, and let us know which one, if any, hits the
> mark.
>
> Preferrably, you'll go to the trouble of capturing the data,
> so that we can give you a better diagnosis, and help avoid
> this pain for others (or your next system) in the future.
>
>
> Terry Lambert
> terry@lambert.org
> ---
> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> or previous employers.
>
>
Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
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