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Date:      Mon, 27 May 2019 20:22:46 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Yoshihiro Ota <ota@j.email.ne.jp>
Cc:        "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Time to retire PC Card (but not CardBus)
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfpZtq8mhUZL=hhuw14kaifXC0hWZbxqtNpV4Wyq8v3GqQ@mail.gmail.com>
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16 bit PC Cards have a smooth metal by the connector while 32 bit ones have
a coppery bumpy grounding strip by the connector.

Warner

On Mon, May 27, 2019, 5:47 PM Yoshihiro Ota <ota@j.email.ne.jp> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think I have a couple of PCMCIA cards and/or bus.
> How do I check?
>
> Thanks,
> Hiro
>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 18:34:46 -0600
> Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Now that a number of 16-bit drivers have been retired, I think it's time
> to
> > retire 16-bit PC Card / PCMCIA cards. The 32-bit CardBus cards are still
> > alive and kicking, but the need for 16-bit PC Cards has passed. It's time
> > to retire it.
> >
> > I've floated this idea before, and there was broad support for it. I've
> > held off until after FCP 101 deprecation was playing out. We've not
> pushed
> > that into the tree. This is the logical next step. FreeBSD 12.x will be
> the
> > last release with 16-bit PC Card support.
> >
> > My plan is to add deprecation notices to the remaining PC Card drivers,
> > merge those back to FreeBSD 11 and 12. Once that's done, I plan on
> removing
> > the 16-bit support. I have a few minor bug fixes to that which I'll push
> in
> > before I retire it, and merge those fixes.
> >
> > My plan is to give about a month for the community to discuss this plan
> > before I add the warnings. If there's resistance, we'll go with more
> formal
> > data collection and deprecation. If there's none, I'll go ahead.
> >
> > This affects the following drivers: an, cmx, fdc, puc, uart, wi, bt3c,
> ata.
> >
> > Warner
> > _______________________________________________
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