Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 12:49:41 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> To: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Deprecating ftpd in the FreeBSD base system? Message-ID: <20200917194941.GY4213@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <4d2c3d9dd633ed9a264cf3675dcbb4386f11ada3.camel@freebsd.org> References: <CAPyFy2BHki84KuzP94AqTLk7v9FTAnLP-sa4HaFLq0kdxt0dEQ@mail.gmail.com> <202009171404.08HE4fZj007939@slippy.cwsent.com> <CALH631n=MEvoS%2B3qOo9nM6-VXYW85jVxv1ih1w=7kfW6E0feag@mail.gmail.com> <4d2c3d9dd633ed9a264cf3675dcbb4386f11ada3.camel@freebsd.org>
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Ian Lepore wrote this message on Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 09:01 -0600: > On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 18:43 +0400, Gleb Popov wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 6:05 PM Cy Schubert < > > Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I've been advocating removing FTP (and HTTP) from libfetch as well. > > > People > > > should be using HTTPS only. > > > > > > > Isn't this a bit too much? I often find myself in need to download > > something starting with "http://" or "ftp://" and use fetch for this. > > Indeed, we have products which rely on this ability in libfetch and we > have to keep supporting them for many many years to come. > > I hate it when someone imperiously declares [For security reasons] > "People should/shouldn't be using ______". You have no idea what the > context is, and thus no ability to declare what should or shouldn't be > used in that context. For example, two embedded systems talking to > each other over a point to point link within a sealed device are not > concerned about man in the middle attacks or other modern internet > threats. And I really dislike when people want to make sure that their unique case that less than a percent of people would every hit blocks the security improvements for the majority of people... I've given up on a number of security improvements in FreeBSD because of this attitude... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."
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