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Date:      Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:12:43 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert <cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>
Cc:        Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>, Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org>, Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga <atabraga@iqm.unicamp.br>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: JFS 
Message-ID:  <200001311513.HAA17848@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:02:44 %2B0900." <3893D404.189AA11A@newsguy.com> 

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In message <3893D404.189AA11A@newsguy.com>, "Daniel C. Sobral" writes:
> Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote:
> > 
> > 4.4BSD has something like JFS, LFS (Log Structured Filesystem).  LFS
> > developed from a paper by John Ousterhout, the same fellow who
> > developed Tcl & Tk.  All other log structured filesystems, JFS, AdvFS,
> > Veritas Filesystem, are based on Ousterhout's work.
> 
> A journalled structured filesystem is NOT a log structured filesystem.

I stand corrected on this point.

> 
> > Due to the lack of interest, FreeBSD's LFS has fallen into disrepair
> > over the years.  With the implementation of softupdates in FreeBSD I
> > don't think there is any need for LFS any more.
> 
> Repeat that over and over the next time you wait fsck finish a 40 Gb
> filesystem checkup, and see if you manage to convince yourself of that.

Read the CVS logs and tell me how you could interpret the comments any 
differently:

1.21 Fri Jan 30 11:33:40 1998 UTC by phk 
CVS Tags: HEAD
Diffs to 1.20 
FILE REMOVED 

Retire LFS.

If you want to play with it, you can find the final version of the
code in the repository the tag LFS_RETIREMENT.

If somebody makes LFS work again, adding it back is certainly
desireable, but as it is now nobody seems to care much about it,
and it has suffered considerable bitrot since its somewhat haphazard
integration.

R.I.P


Obviously you don't know what you're talking about either.  Do you?


Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Sun/DEC Team, UNIX Group    Internet:  Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca
ITSD
Province of BC            
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