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Date:      Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:38:28 +0200
From:      Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>, "ports@FreeBSD.org" <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: dependency explosions
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From: Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>
To: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>,
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Subject: Re: dependency explosions
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Le 05/10/2016 =C3=A0 05:18, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit :
> On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> Le 01/10/2016 =C3=A0 04:35, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit :
>>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
>> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
>> make config.
>>
>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming i=
n
>>> as a dependency, as
>>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bell=
s
>>> and whistles.
>> The bare minimum will never be the default.  The default is what will
>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>>
> I didn't say it should be the default, I said it should be an easy to
> request option,
> (without using the config screen on each of 25000 ports)
> e.g. setting PORTS_CONFIG_MINIMUM before making everything.
> Most ports and packages are installed not because people want them,
> but because they are forced to do so by dependencies.
> Giving a way to reduce the number of unrequested packages, in a simple
> way would be of great use to many many people

Feel free to open PR/provide patches for ports which you think need to
provide more options.


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Mathieu Arnold



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