Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:07:48 -0400 From: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" <jeroen@vangelderen.org> To: Mark Murray <mark@grimreaper.grondar.za> Cc: Dan Moschuk <dan@FreeBSD.org>, Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (2nd iteration) New /dev/(random|null|zero) - review, please Message-ID: <393E9D84.4026FC0E@vangelderen.org> References: <393D5D46.6BCACDE4@vangelderen.org> <200006070607.IAA24428@gratis.grondar.za>
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Mark Murray wrote: > > > > Because of the significant speed decrease in using Yarrow, I'd like to see > > > us keep the current implementation around, and having Yarrow as an > > > option or psuedo-device to be used instead. > > > > Yarrow -when finished- is not noticably slower than our current > > implementation of /dev/[u]random. Yarrow does one block encryption > > for every output block and a generator gate every 10 blocks. This > > would allow for at least 40 mbit/s output on a 200 Mhz PPro when > > using Rijndael/256/256. > > I tend to agree; I am currently using SHA1 and DES3, and it is quite > slow, mostly in the proportion of DES3::MD5 speeds, which makes sense > as the existing implementation uses MD5. Rijndael is quite a bit faster than single DES which will do 28 Mbit/s on a PPro 200. Assuming a generator gate every 10 blocks Rijndael would do 11 encryptions per 10 blocks and hence run at least at 25.5 Mbit/s. In reality we could see around 50 Mbit/s performance, depending on the Rijndael implementation. Of course I'm not counting reseeds but those can be done in a lazy fashion. You can generate hundreds of MBytes before you *need* to reseed, depending on your security policy. So the bottleneck is not the PRNG mechanism, it's the security policy and your entropy sources. If you require a reseed every hundred blocks or so it becomes much more expensive. But that holds for our current /dev/[u]random implementation too. Cheers, Jeroen -- Jeroen C. van Gelderen o _ _ _ jeroen@vangelderen.org _o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _< \_ _>(_) (_)/<_ \_| \ _|/' \/ (_)>(_) (_) (_) (_) (_)' _\o_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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